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okay so iv had a darwin for about 5 month an this thing hate the entire world. it hates being handled and i really hates me.it was 1 1/2 years when i got it and if anything its got worse. iv try alot of things just getting over it. and with his 6 month allmost over im ready to flog him off. any tips would be really help full as he is a really pretty snake and i do like him.
 
just get used to looking at him from a distance. How often do you handle him? I had 2 of them and no matter what i did i got smashed by them. I started to handle them every couple of days and no matter how many times i get tagged i just kept holding them. No longer than about 15 mins each time. Within a month i was able to handle them. Only draw back was my hands looking like pin cushions.
 
he gets handled heaps thats what i dont understand. i thought arfter time he would calm down but its just getting silly. i work with a 7 ft darwin at work and he is a pussy cat. the main reason i bought one. i mean my red bellies free handle better that he dose.
 
If you cant take the heat, then get out of the fire... If you go by that saying, then yes, sell him... Herps take time, and if you arent willing to put time, effort and a hell of a lot of patience into them, then it isnt the hobby for you... And giving up on him after that long shows you dont exactly have the patience etc needed... You obviously dont like him enough if you are even contemplating selling him for that reason alone (the not handling well reason)...

Don't become a breeder now will you... It takes a lot more time, patience and effort to raise a whole clutch (or more than one clutch) and get them feeding properly and even handling before they are good to sell to beginners and general herp people who are willing to put up with a fussy feeder or handler...
 
keep it aggresive ones are way more interesting they exhibit natural behaviour
 
one thing i dont understand hellion is that you own and handle red belly blacks and you cant deal with an agro darwin
 
If you cant take the heat, then get out of the fire... If you go by that saying, then yes, sell him... Herps take time, and if you arent willing to put time, effort and a hell of a lot of patience into them, then it isnt the hobby for you... And giving up on him after that long shows you dont exactly have the patience etc needed... You obviously dont like him enough if you are even contemplating selling him for that reason alone (the not handling well reason)...

Don't become a breeder now will you... It takes a lot more time, patience and effort to raise a whole clutch (or more than one clutch) and get them feeding properly and even handling before they are good to sell to beginners and general herp people who are willing to put up with a fussy feeder or handler...


i deal with snake alot im trying to get the point across that this isnt normal agression. iv cought tigers more calm than him. i work with a domo company and i do snake removal. its not like i dont know how to keep and get snakes handeling or feedding. what im saying that this is an exception from anything iv eva delt with. thus why i was asking if any one had any advice for some thing so over the top. but any way Ishah thanks for your totally un helpful arrigant advice.
 
Have you got a pic of him ? l might swap him for a tame one , have a few spares .

maybe take this guy up on his offer.:) maybe its worth finding him a home off someone who would use him as a breeder or doesn't mind not handling him, from other posts i believe there are heaps out there. i dont think there is much point stressing out the guy if he really doesn't like handling and which sounds like you do.. i like handling my reptiles too :)
 
i dont know how to send photos :( but i put some on my profile. i dont know i delt with really aggresive snakes befor ay work, and with lots of handeling they normally come around, thats why im stressing out so much. because it just becoming silly its not like i hate him just worried about how rediculose it will be when he gets big.
 
how much would you be arfter for him.... im looking for a few more breeders
 
maybe take this guy up on his offer.:) maybe its worth finding him a home off someone who would use him as a breeder or doesn't mind not handling him, from other posts i believe there are heaps out there. i dont think there is much point stressing out the guy if he really doesn't like handling and which sounds like you do.. i like handling my reptiles too :)

have to agree with rubysnake, im the same with my reps, i enjoy handling them. i can understand how u might feel, especially thinkin to the future when he gets bigger. u just dont know tho, he may settle, he may not... it does sound as tho perhaps he is just aggressive by nature. u sound as tho u are very experienced with snakes, do u work with them? lucky u if thats the case! but i suppose it would be different handling aggressive snakes at work to having one at home...specially if u want it for a pet. you will make the right decision in the end for whats best for u and the snake, imo its not worth having a snake that stresses u out and visa versa.:)
 
i guess if someone is willing to take the snake and enjoy it better than you will in the future, go for it. but the decision is all yours.
 
If it was a female i would be very interested.
I find my Dawin male is cage sensitive. i just hook him out leave him on hook for a while then he will come up to my hand this is fine to handle. But if i try and grab him out by hand he will bite and try to eat me. lol.
 
Can't you just keep him as a nice snake to look at? This python obviously has issues and he has no way of telling you what is wrong, except to show you he isn't happy. I am not trying to patronise you. You say you know what you're doing with snakes, but they are all still very much individuals.

Don't force the issue of having to handle him. If he doesn't want to be handled there isn't anything you can do about it. He is not one of your "normal" snakes that settle down. Either accept the fact that he will always be a grouch and only handle him when absolutely necessary, or like you have suggested, get rid of him. I'd take him off your hands but I have vowed I will not bring in anymore snakes this year. I will if he's desperate and homeless but I can see plenty of hands up, willing to take him, so I think he will do just fine :D
 
i have to agree with hellion... STOP ACTING LIKE A D**K ISHAH
just asking for some advice and you and your ego arnt helping,
i thought this was a community....
anyway hellion i think persistence may help, i have the same problem with a coastal this boy loves to bite, just because he can and he is pretty young so the pain factor is bearable but i've found just bit by bit he is starting to trust me...i was so worried i went on youtube and typed in taming snakes, anyway came across one that you fill the bath with luke warm water and enuf so he doesnt get out and let it swim and then put your arm in the bath and let his climb up it will soon recognoise you as something safe....i thought it was BS till i tryed it and i have noticed some difference

anyways good luck
alex
 
Hey mate I had the same issue with my darwin and is actually about the same age. I have worked with this little guy for over a year. Originally I bought him from a pet shop as he had issues and clearly they didn't have the time or patience to work with him. It has taken me a long time to get him where he is now but a few tricks with him that I found was

clean your hands extra extra well.
get him out of his enclosure on a hook and let him settle down whilst on the hook.
when he has settled move him to my hand not my hand to him.
dont just handle him for 3 min work with it if he tags me deal with it. move on.

I am only around the corner from you so if you want to have a chat etc PM me.
 
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