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Is this temperature ok in the tub i have it around 27- 32 degrees, i am using a heat mat with a thermostat. The snake is in shedding mode it hasn't started to shed yet but it started to hide more and be come aggressive. I know this is ok because sometimes shedding can hurt them.

Btw it a spotted python 2 years old, I will be soon getting a proper enclosure for it.
 
27 is too low. 32 is okay. You should never rely on a thermostat - you must get a thermometer asap.

Why do you have it between 27-32? Are you changing the settings on the thermostat to fluctuate the temperature? Otherwise, without a thermometer how would you know that the temp goes from 27-32?

Your post is confusing, and you need to research your animals needs thoroughly ie. heat gradient etc. If you have trouble finding this information, PM me and I'll send you some links....but you need to learn this stuff...yesterday.
 
You're missing something.

Admittedly, the OP's posts are confusing though..
 
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You can rely on a thermostat, if you don't think you can don't connect a heat source to it that can potentially injure your animal. A thermometer will tell you what the temp is, but won't do anything to stop it so definitely rely on thermostat. My heat fluctuates at different times of the day, I don't have a thermometer in one of my enclosures but my thermostat gives a reading.
 
Thanks every one, Temperature is now on 32 degrees, i got confused because when i done research some people had different temperatures.
 
It really doesn't matter exactly what temp you have as long as hot end is over thirty and cool end is between 23 and 27. In my larger enclosures hot spots are 35+ cool spots are room temp so as low as 15 degrees
 
You can rely on a thermostat, if you don't think you can don't connect a heat source to it that can potentially injure your animal. A thermometer will tell you what the temp is, but won't do anything to stop it so definitely rely on thermostat. My heat fluctuates at different times of the day, I don't have a thermometer in one of my enclosures but my thermostat gives a reading.

Thermostats should be calibrated against a good thermometer, as generally speaking they are not designed to accuratley measure temperature but rather control the temperature. The reading a thermostat gives should be taken as a rough guide only.
 
My thermostat has been calibrated, with my laser thermometer. But you must be able to rely on thermostat to take a reading and switch off when need be. A good thermostat should be fairly accurate, they work on temp, like a thermometer
 
You can rely on a thermostat, if you don't think you can don't connect a heat source to it that can potentially injure your animal. A thermometer will tell you what the temp is, but won't do anything to stop it so definitely rely on thermostat. My heat fluctuates at different times of the day, I don't have a thermometer in one of my enclosures but my thermostat gives a reading.

Your heat source may not injure your animal via direct burns, but without a thermometer, how long would it take you to realise that your thermostat has failed and the entire enclosure has heated up? No more heat gradient...just a hot box for your poor animal to endure for however long it takes for you to realise this. Without a thermometer, could be a while. I glance at my thermometers often.

You are assuming that your thermostat is accurate, but a bit of reading or experience would highlight the fact that they are inaccurate a lot of the time, and can also be unreliable.

You have also failed to consider the fact that your temps could be too low, due to relying solely on the thermostat. Low temps = digestion issues.

Get a thermometer, there is absolutely no reason not to, and there is no logic behind advocating using a thermostat only.
 
Good thermostats like those used in the food industry can be relied on and are in some cases extremely precise, I have a few that are accurate to .1 degree and can beset to turn on and off at .4 degree difference for example heat on at 31.4 degrees heat off at 31.8 degrees. I can rely on these to accurately turn on and off up to 1000 watts but they do cost several hundred each. They also have digital temp display and alarms for to hot and to cold In case outside factors are at play.
 
Your heat source may not injure your animal via direct burns, but without a thermometer, how long would it take you to realise that your thermostat has failed and the entire enclosure has heated up? No more heat gradient...just a hot box for your poor animal to endure for however long it takes for you to realise this. Without a thermometer, could be a while. I glance at my thermometers often.

You are assuming that your thermostat is accurate, but a bit of reading or experience would highlight the fact that they are inaccurate a lot of the time, and can also be unreliable.

You have also failed to consider the fact that your temps could be too low, due to relying solely on the thermostat. Low temps = digestion issues.

Get a thermometer, there is absolutely no reason not to, and there is no logic behind advocating using a thermostat only.

OK, valid points, however I never said to not use a thermometer. I said in one of mine I don't. Bear in mind with the size of globe I'm using coupled with shear size of enclosure it couldn't overheat, even without thermostat. As for assuming my thermostat is accurate, I said I checked it with thermometer, I regularly do. What I said is you must be able to rely on thermostat. How do you check your temps when you're not home? Surely on occasion you leave for long enough to overheat if your thermostat fails

Your heat source may not injure your animal via direct burns, but without a thermometer, how long would it take you to realise that your thermostat has failed and the entire enclosure has heated up? No more heat gradient...just a hot box for your poor animal to endure for however long it takes for you to realise this. Without a thermometer, could be a while. I glance at my thermometers often.

You are assuming that your thermostat is accurate, but a bit of reading or experience would highlight the fact that they are inaccurate a lot of the time, and can also be unreliable.

You have also failed to consider the fact that your temps could be too low, due to relying solely on the thermostat. Low temps = digestion issues.

Get a thermometer, there is absolutely no reason not to, and there is no logic behind advocating using a thermostat only.

OK, valid points, however I never said to not use a thermometer. I said in one of mine I don't. Bear in mind with the size of globe I'm using coupled with shear size of enclosure it couldn't overheat, even without thermostat. As for assuming my thermostat is accurate, I said I checked it with thermometer, I regularly do. What I said is you must be able to rely on thermostat. How do you check your temps when you're not home? Surely on occasion you leave for long enough to overheat if your thermostat fails

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Also, I must've missed something cause I never advocated not using a thermometer

Your heat source may not injure your animal via direct burns, but without a thermometer, how long would it take you to realise that your thermostat has failed and the entire enclosure has heated up? No more heat gradient...just a hot box for your poor animal to endure for however long it takes for you to realise this. Without a thermometer, could be a while. I glance at my thermometers often.

You are assuming that your thermostat is accurate, but a bit of reading or experience would highlight the fact that they are inaccurate a lot of the time, and can also be unreliable.

You have also failed to consider the fact that your temps could be too low, due to relying solely on the thermostat. Low temps = digestion issues.

Get a thermometer, there is absolutely no reason not to, and there is no logic behind advocating using a thermostat only.

OK, valid points, however I never said to not use a thermometer. I said in one of mine I don't. Bear in mind with the size of globe I'm using coupled with shear size of enclosure it couldn't overheat, even without thermostat. As for assuming my thermostat is accurate, I said I checked it with thermometer, I regularly do. What I said is you must be able to rely on thermostat. How do you check your temps when you're not home? Surely on occasion you leave for long enough to overheat if your thermostat fails

Your heat source may not injure your animal via direct burns, but without a thermometer, how long would it take you to realise that your thermostat has failed and the entire enclosure has heated up? No more heat gradient...just a hot box for your poor animal to endure for however long it takes for you to realise this. Without a thermometer, could be a while. I glance at my thermometers often.

You are assuming that your thermostat is accurate, but a bit of reading or experience would highlight the fact that they are inaccurate a lot of the time, and can also be unreliable.

You have also failed to consider the fact that your temps could be too low, due to relying solely on the thermostat. Low temps = digestion issues.

Get a thermometer, there is absolutely no reason not to, and there is no logic behind advocating using a thermostat only.

OK, valid points, however I never said to not use a thermometer. I said in one of mine I don't. Bear in mind with the size of globe I'm using coupled with shear size of enclosure it couldn't overheat, even without thermostat. As for assuming my thermostat is accurate, I said I checked it with thermometer, I regularly do. What I said is you must be able to rely on thermostat. How do you check your temps when you're not home? Surely on occasion you leave for long enough to overheat if your thermostat fails

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Also, I must've missed something cause I never advocated not using a thermometer

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I also have plenty of reading experience, please don't assume that I don't. There's more to keeping reptiles than reading
 
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When I read your initial post I took it that you meant you can rely on the thermostat to give an accurate tempertature reading without any calibration. The old dial thermostats which are often used while fairly accurate at maintaining a temperature at a set point were notoriously bad at giving an accurate temperature reading. This is why I said they should be calibrated against a thermometer. But after re-reading your initial post I see you were getting at a different point.:)
 
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