Reptiles in NSW pet shop

[Ramsayi]

how about a dec inspector? inspect breeders before giving them a licence to sell to pet shops?

Why impose more regulations on keepers,just so shops can make some middle man money?
We already have far too many as it is.Why not get the decc to inspect all breeders regardless whether they sell privately or through pet shops?

 

[zulu]

A Decc inspector would be like a big fly landing on one collection and spreading desease to the next .

 

[KaotikJezta]

There is no way a shop could afford to quarantine any animals, hence shocking virus's being spread.
Let's face it, they will only be recommending their friends as good breeders whether they are or not.

We quarrantine everything!

 

[Ramsayi]

We quarrantine everything!

For how long and how?

 

[Gonemad]

I cant see them going that far as they dont make any money?
But If they are feeling that generous then why not put the illegal exotic that are bred in Australia on licences to keep an eye on numbers and areas etc

 

[KaotikJezta]

For how long and how?

Three months is the usual unless they come from a reptutable breeder we know personally. And we tell the customers that have other animals how to quarrantine.

 

[Allan]

Allan,the NPWS are hopeless,they couldnt lay straight in bed they are just in for the$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

An Australian National park and wildlife "service" that isn't efficient, capable, knowledgeable and not looking for the $$$$?????????? You're kidding.
They might be able to squeeze out a few extra bucks from special "pet shop staff" licences

 

[Ramsayi]

Three months is the usual unless they come from a reptutable breeder we know personally.

So every animal that arrives at the shop is not put up for sale for 3 months but if from a trusted breeder there is no quarantine? Do you house animals from trusted breeders separately from animals that come from other sources?
If someone came in and asked if you had such and such you would send them on their way even though you could supply them with an animal that say came in a week ago?

 

[zulu]

I imagine that some of the bigger shops would get a dealers license ,they will buy whole clutches at the cheapest price, in one day and out the next thats what a dealers license enables you to do and thy will be done

Yahooo $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

 

[JasonL]

I also heard that there was going to be a number of reptiles that would require no license. If that is the case then that is crazy! Our opinion would be that everything should be on license from the start and can then be reviewed each year after that. It will be a free for all if no license is required on ANY animal that is native to NSW.

Bearded Dragons deaths will be so high that just the staff needed to process the paperwork will sink the whole organisation, plus they don't have enough filing cabinets to store all the paperwork.

 

[bowss]

We quarrantine everything!

This would have to be the biggest load of rubbish I have read in a long time! For one what is 3 months going to prevent you from catching? Secondly do you house these animals on a different premises?

 

[saintanger]

Why impose more regulations on keepers,just so shops can make some middle man money?
We already have far too many as it is.Why not get the decc to inspect all breeders regardless whether they sell privately or through pet shops?

i know its not fair to impose more regulations on keepers/ breeders. but any keeper would be happy to do it as long as its for the reptiles welfare (to make sure only top quality reptiles who are looked after properly and quarantined get sold to pet shops to lower the risk of deaths). decc should inspect all breeders regardless but those that wanna sell to pet shops should get a visit related to that.

i know we all dislike decc visits, i do too. but if i wanted to sell to petshops i would like them to visit and see that the reptiles are well looked after and are top quality and that quarantine procedures are followed. and that i also don't keep exotics so there is less chance of foreign viruses being spread.

and if i were to buy a reptile from a petshop i'd like to know that its coming from a clean collection.

 

[Sleazy.P.Martini]

How much extra would it cost for licencing if they had to send inspectors to every breeder? Its already costly and at the moment they don't seem to do Jack.

 

[rachmoo]

Are you sure he didn't mean an aviary, plenty of people keep Diamonds outside in aviaries, if your in the right area it is probably the best way to keep them as they are usually overheated. You should read up on Diamonds.

nope, a small bird cage...and it was a full grown python. I have read up on Diamonds..i'm the reptile specialist in my store..

 

[Colin]

who in their right mind would buy a reptile from 90% (maybe more) of the pet shops in the country in the first place? :lol:

 

[Stevo2]

All the other States and Territories seem to manage selling reptiles in shops OK, what's the big fuss?

 

[ubermensch]

....when I get a new reptile I like to enforce quarantine, but damned if they're not kept on the same premises! I'm sorry, but I can't get a whole new house just because of quarantine. They're kept in a separate room, and I'm careful about scrubbing down and disinfecting.
As it has been said, Vic has been selling reptiles in shops for years with NO influx of diseases.
Everyone has their own "do or do not do" with quarantine but a minimum of 3 months sounds fine to me.

 

[Justdragons]

Here in SA there is a few reptile stores and i think its great.. there is so many ‘what if’s’ going around this thread but to be honest it would be a good thing.. pet shops buy from breeders and breeders supply care sheets and stock cards and a phone number for people who need advice. Breeders would be doing better and I would hope the shops selling reptiles would be watched by the governing body for the state and regulated for quality.

Here the reptile stores on the most part are great. I know people who just take the kids there to watch the feedings on a sat and others who go there religiously for foods and supplies.. the amount of times Jason at reptile city has helped me in a crisis from incubating eggs to sick animals. Its great..

There are some restaurant the kill people through food poisoning but it doesn’t mean you should only be able to make food at home.. There is just harsh penalties.. as there should be for anyone who is not caring for animals in a shop properly.

 

[Cypher69]

Like unwanted puppies & kittens, I'm guessing NSW RSPCA better get geared up to take in unwanted reptiles once they get too big or kids get bitten the first time they handle a snake.

 

[Stevo2]

Something new/Change is always scary at first.....

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Like unwanted puppies & kittens, I'm guessing NSW RSPCA better get geared up to take in unwanted reptiles once they get too big or kids get bitten the first time they handle a snake.

Why? They dont take all the unwanted parrots that get aggressive when they reach maturity or the noisy ones......