Vixen
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I produced a clutch of Jungle eggs this year that have turned out to have some quite unusual patterning going on. I wanted to make this thread in hopes of gathering some information from those who have produced similar clutches, or others that might have more of an insight.
A bit of a back history. The parents are both pure Palmerston Jungles, the Dam a Krauss line animal and Sire of Montgomery lineage. She layed 15 eggs on the 2nd November, with the first few hatchlings emerging yesterday the 3rd January (day 62). I pipped the rest of the eggs manually and found one hatchling dead - it was situated next to an infertile egg that went mouldy within the first week of incubation, so could have possibly become contaminated from the bad egg. The rest of the 13 hatchlings seem very robust and healthy, one appears quite lethargic though and hasn't come out of the egg yet.
This is the 3rd clutch I've produced from the female, always being paired with the same male. None of her previous clutches showed any signs of this abnormality - they always produce a large portion of striped hatchies of varying degrees (at least 80% of each clutch), but nothing this prominent. Eggs are incubated over vermiculite in a sealed Sistema container - aired once every fortnight and more often when in the last 1-2 weeks prior to hatching.
Incubator was the exact same setup I've used for the past 4 years with no problems, it maintains a steady 30.5 to 31 degrees on a dimming thermostat. As far as I know there was no fluctuations in temperature. Even if a malfunction happened during the night (example a blackout) - the ambient room temperature where the incubator is kept rarely falls below 28 degrees at this time of year. This seems unlikely though as I would have noticed if there was a power outage as the microwave clock resets when this happens, and the thermometer has an alarm if anything over 32 degrees is reached. The only fluctuations are the minor changes when I open and close to check on eggs, but
this is always brief.
I do know of a similar occurrence that happened to a member on here (Ships) - and I remember seeing another clutch (possibly Coastals?) from someone else but for the life of me I can't find the thread. The general consensus is that it's caused by low temperatures during incubation, however as far as I know noone has been able to replicate this?
I'm not at all claiming this is a new morph or anything like that, i'm just interested to find out what's happened here. I'll obviously be keeping some back for a future project, but even if nothing comes from it they will certainly make for some beautiful display animals.
Feel free to add any info you might have to this thread, it'd be nice to hear thoughts and opinions. Photo's are below!
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Some of the newly hatched oddlings:
Sire at 5 years old:
Dam in prelay shed at 7 years old:
Eggs:
Example of animals produced in past seasons (varying ages from newly hatched to 12 months):
A bit of a back history. The parents are both pure Palmerston Jungles, the Dam a Krauss line animal and Sire of Montgomery lineage. She layed 15 eggs on the 2nd November, with the first few hatchlings emerging yesterday the 3rd January (day 62). I pipped the rest of the eggs manually and found one hatchling dead - it was situated next to an infertile egg that went mouldy within the first week of incubation, so could have possibly become contaminated from the bad egg. The rest of the 13 hatchlings seem very robust and healthy, one appears quite lethargic though and hasn't come out of the egg yet.
This is the 3rd clutch I've produced from the female, always being paired with the same male. None of her previous clutches showed any signs of this abnormality - they always produce a large portion of striped hatchies of varying degrees (at least 80% of each clutch), but nothing this prominent. Eggs are incubated over vermiculite in a sealed Sistema container - aired once every fortnight and more often when in the last 1-2 weeks prior to hatching.
Incubator was the exact same setup I've used for the past 4 years with no problems, it maintains a steady 30.5 to 31 degrees on a dimming thermostat. As far as I know there was no fluctuations in temperature. Even if a malfunction happened during the night (example a blackout) - the ambient room temperature where the incubator is kept rarely falls below 28 degrees at this time of year. This seems unlikely though as I would have noticed if there was a power outage as the microwave clock resets when this happens, and the thermometer has an alarm if anything over 32 degrees is reached. The only fluctuations are the minor changes when I open and close to check on eggs, but
this is always brief.
I do know of a similar occurrence that happened to a member on here (Ships) - and I remember seeing another clutch (possibly Coastals?) from someone else but for the life of me I can't find the thread. The general consensus is that it's caused by low temperatures during incubation, however as far as I know noone has been able to replicate this?
I'm not at all claiming this is a new morph or anything like that, i'm just interested to find out what's happened here. I'll obviously be keeping some back for a future project, but even if nothing comes from it they will certainly make for some beautiful display animals.
Feel free to add any info you might have to this thread, it'd be nice to hear thoughts and opinions. Photo's are below!
~~~~~~~~~~
Some of the newly hatched oddlings:
Sire at 5 years old:
Dam in prelay shed at 7 years old:
Eggs:
Example of animals produced in past seasons (varying ages from newly hatched to 12 months):
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