Well yet again I disagree with someone lol Snekwrangler, While your comments are constructive I have to say that I think the majority of people here in APS would disagree. You see it is the light heartedness of most threads and posts as well as the amount of knowledge that can be learnt from members on this site(new and old) that makes it so enjoyable. If you want or need strict rules and guidlines then maybe you need another site and join the services. Greg as for going against the mainstream? well I have on several occasions and in fact I usually do on most topics and YES I to have clashed with Jan but have also found him and the moderators to be fair in the most part, remembering that they don't get paid for it after all. The trick to disagreement on this site is to disagree if you want but not to take it to heart, Remember the old saying ?"Sticks and Stones"??? In closing YES we all agree that Greebs and Afro ARE spastics(I had better insirt a smiley here) :lol: but at the same time they are both(as much as I hate to say it) both very knowledgable and very willing to offer assistance and advice as well as a quick shot if needed. I think we all like the site so everyone stop taking things to heart and enjoy the site the way it is for the way it is.