Whats the go with " Free Reptiles Wanted "

[Colin]

I've got nothing against people taking in unwanted reptiles from " giveaway " adds posted in the Freebies section, friends, whatever............
But people requesting " free reptiles " ?? Come on, get real !!!
Its just becoming a to common practice these days.

I agree mate.. I've personally given away for free well over 20 snakes from last season to some of my regular customers because I wanted to show them some gratitude and support them for supporting my breeding efforts and also to some others who I didnt even know because I felt they deserved them. One was to a member who "won" a snake in a competition on another forum but was ripped off and her young son was extremely disappointed.. It was a pleasure to give them one to cheer them up. Its a good thing to help others and encourage them in the hobby in my opinion and it doesnt hurt to give something back to others in the hobby without money becoming an issue. When I first started in reptiles it was illegal to "sell" them and you could only aquire them from licensed reptile keepers/ breeders.

My point being people give snakes away for free to friends and deserving genuine people & not to people who "ask for them".. Some maybe genuine & even deserving but I think there would be others looking for freebies to re-sell for a buck..

If people want free reptiles then join the OEH (DEC) ballot, contact WIRES or answer the giving away for free ads.

I don't feel APS freebie forum should be used for this purpose and the "spirit" of a freebie forum is for people to GIVE AWAY items for free and not to ask for them.. Other free sites can be used for this but I don't feel our forum should be used in this manner.. So I'm making a decision to remove wanted for free ads and if the Administrator or other mods feel this is inappropriate I'm happy for them to reverse my decision. If people want to complain about who are affected by this decision.. be my guest and here's the support centre link http://www.aussiepythons.com/support/ Thank you.

If however you agree with my decsion then feel free to like this post and show other forum members what you think. Im open to your views on this guys.


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[Peterwookie]

If you want free animals or anthing else .. That is what the freebies section is for .... Every day when you wake up you can see if anyone out of the kindness of there hearts has put up a new add .... Stop filling up the forsale or wanted adds with your I will give it a great home dribble ,,, it's like walking down George st Sydney and seeing the give me money for drugs & booze bums on the side of the road .. Just pathetic , I hope admin bans this crap .. Reptiles are cheep enough these days without you people wanting them for free

 

[mungus]

I agree mate.. I've personally given away for free well over 20 snakes from last season to some of my regular customers because I wanted to show them some gratitude and support them for supporting my breeding efforts and also to some others who I didnt even know because I felt they deserved them. One was to a member who "won" a snake in a competition on another forum but was ripped off and her young son was extremely disappointed.. It was a pleasure to give them one to cheer them up. Its a good thing to help others and encourage them in the hobby in my opinion and it doesnt hurt to give something back to others in the hobby without money becoming an issue. When I first started in reptiles it was illegal to "sell" them and you could only aquire them from licensed reptile keepers/ breeders.

My point being people give snakes away for free to friends and deserving genuine people & not to people who "ask for them".. Some maybe genuine & even deserving but I think there would be others looking for freebies to re-sell for a buck..

If people want free reptiles then join the OEH (DEC) ballot, contact WIRES or answer the giving away for free ads.

I don't feel APS freebie forum should be used for this purpose and the "spirit" of a freebie forum is for people to GIVE AWAY items for free and not to ask for them.. Other free sites can be used for this but I don't feel our forum should be used in this manner.. So I'm making a decision to remove wanted for free ads and if the Administrator or other mods feel this is inappropriate I'm happy for them to reverse my decision. If people want to complain about who are affected by this decision.. be my guest and here's the support centre link http://www.aussiepythons.com/support/ Thank you.

If however you agree with my decsion then feel free to like this post and show other forum members what you think. Im open to your views on this guys.

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Well said Colin

 

[Colin]

thanks Aleks.. I've edited my original post a little so I'd be interested in what you and other's think.

I have also added a poll on this issue of "Should the APS freebie section be used for "wanted for free" adverts or not?"

I kicked the ball rolling with a NO..
make your vote count people.

 

[Renenet]

Hi Colin,

Should definitely be banned for reptiles - while some posters may be well-intentioned, it's too ripe for abuse and when it comes to living creatures, I think you can never take enough precautions.

Would this ban extend to asking for all freebies? If someone is looking for wood scraps, foam offcuttings or anything else that would otherwise be tossed in the bin, I don't see a problem with that.

 

[LizardLady]

I always purchase what i want from certain breeders who specialise in what I'm looking for.
I dont expect to get anything for free from them nor should anyone expect anything for free from me [ though i've given quite a few " cheap " one's to kids ]
I do however offer lots of free advice on how to look after their new friend and any advice people need in regards to breeding, care etc.
You asking and obtaining free reptiles does'nt hurt me at all, it just annoys me that you could be doing it for more than one motive........
Some people are givers and others takers, it seems to me from reading all your posts in this thread that you can definately take it ! :lol:

+1 here Mungus!

Those of us that buy our animals from reputable breeders, after having researched both animal and breeder, are more "prepared" to spend the time, money, energy and effort that is REQUIRED to maintain that animal's health, welfare and well-being (in my opinion)...

I don't ask exorbitant prices for my animals - I ask what I feel is fair, going by the current market value - but I certainly don't "give away" these animals either! I "expect" my grandkids to go to good homes (I research buyers as much as I can), but sadly, in some cases, I still find after the 6 month period, my grandkids are up for sale elsewhere... So, in saying this, the argument of "on-selling" free animals, happens in bought animals as well...

Personally, again in my opinion, if you can't afford to buy the animal, how the hell do you expect to look after it? Feeding, housing, vet-bills etc?

Stepping off my soap-box now...

Best,
Carolyn

 

[Colin]

Hi Colin,

Should definitely be banned for reptiles - while some posters may be well-intentioned, it's too ripe for abuse and when it comes to living creatures, I think you can never take enough precautions.

Would this ban extend to asking for all freebies? If someone is looking for wood scraps, foam offcuttings or anything else that would otherwise be tossed in the bin, I don't see a problem with that.

Thanks for the feedback rennet. In my opinion items like you've suggested like foam scaps to make rock walls etc, wood scraps etc are fine with me..

What I object to is the freebie section being used (mostly by members who havent even been members for a few months) asking for free reptiles, accessories or items that are normally sold or given away for free on this forum. Its bad manners (whatever your intent to ask for free) but members are welcome to offer items for free and others are welcome to answer these posts.

But no more "WANTED free - reptiles, accessories or rodents" please guys..

to the people claiming they asking for freebies for themselves and/or to give them away to others, worthy causes etc.. then I'd suggest "Breeding Your Own" reptiles and then you can give them free to whom you wish as long as they are licenced.

 

[Poggle]

Thanks for the feedback rennet. In my opinion items like you've suggested like foam scaps to make rock walls etc, wood scraps etc are fine with me..

What I object to is the freebie section being used (mostly by members who havent even been members for a few months) asking for free reptiles, accessories or items that are normally sold or given away for free on this forum. Its bad manners (whatever your intent to ask for free) but members are welcome to offer items for free and others are welcome to answer these posts.

But no more "WANTED free - reptiles, accessories or rodents" please guys..

to the people claiming they asking for freebies for themselves and/or to give them away to others, worthy causes etc.. then I'd suggest "Breeding Your Own" reptiles and then you can give them free to whom you wish as long as they are licenced.

Couldn't agree more with what you have been saying Col.
I too have given away my fair share of snakes over the years, mainly to regular customers, once again to thank them for their support.

WHAT I DO HATE IS THIS..... In another post i stated i had given away a snake to a family who had been robbed and all their snakes stolen, i met with these people, they were genuine, and i gave them the simplest of snakes, a juvie carpet. Now almost immediately after this post, i had alot and i mean ALOT of people pming me saying hey do you have any more freebies you want re homed... I dont know how many times i tried explaining... well not i do not just openly give who ever snakes... This is why it frustrates me... I pay for my snakes feed, power, accessories, breeding costs, why would we be expected to give them away for the sake of it...

If some of you keyboard warriors are wondering why some people get offended, then have a damn think for a second, the time some people have put into breeding particular lines, looks, breeds for people to say WANTED - FREE JAG etc..... hmmm cmon pplz use some brains.. I dont like arguing as there is a lot of that on here, but this does annoy me....

 

[LizardLady]

Thanks for the feedback rennet. In my opinion items like you've suggested like foam scaps to make rock walls etc, wood scraps etc are fine with me..

What I object to is the freebie section being used (mostly by members who havent even been members for a few months) asking for free reptiles, accessories or items that are normally sold or given away for free on this forum. Its bad manners (whatever your intent to ask for free) but members are welcome to offer items for free and others are welcome to answer these posts.

But no more "WANTED free - reptiles, accessories or rodents" please guys..

to the people claiming they asking for freebies for themselves and/or to give them away to others, worthy causes etc.. then I'd suggest "Breeding Your Own" reptiles and then you can give them free to whom you wish as long as they are licenced.

In typical "Colin fashion", WELL SAID! Certainly got MY vote!

 

[Colin]

thanks for the support

 

[Sezzzzzzzzz]

i think there is a massive difference between being given things for free, and asking for things for free.

in the year and a half ive been on here, i have never seen as many ads stating "wanted free...." as i have in the last couple of months. and yeah it annoys me that people have the nerve to ask for free reptiles. i dont have much money either, but my pride would never allow me to ask for free animals.... i save up and get what i want.

 

[sniffmylizard]

Everyone going the hack again. I still buy my reptiles from good breeders. But if I can do my bit to stop random reptiles being released or palmed off to people that aren t prepared to look after them for life I will.
If you want to call me a beggar or parasite feel free but honestly what would you know. Just another thread with a whole bunch of opinionated people.

 

[smeejason]

Just another thread with a whole bunch of opinionated people.

Seeing that we were asked our opinion (Vote) I would hope it was full of opinionated people.:shock:

 

[Umbral]

Everyone going the hack again. I still buy my reptiles from good breeders. But if I can do my bit to stop random reptiles being released or palmed off to people that aren t prepared to look after them for life I will.
If you want to call me a beggar or parasite feel free but honestly what would you know. Just another thread with a whole bunch of opinionated people.

If people don't have time for their reptiles anymore and are on this site..... Then they can post them in the freebies section. I don't think anyone on APS would rather dump their animal in the wild than take two minutes to post a freebie.

 

[Sezzzzzzzzz]

Everyone going the hack again. I still buy my reptiles from good breeders. But if I can do my bit to stop random reptiles being released or palmed off to people that aren t prepared to look after them for life I will.
If you want to call me a beggar or parasite feel free but honestly what would you know. Just another thread with a whole bunch of opinionated people.

i dont see one ad you have posted asking for free reps... so get off your high horse.

 

[FAY]

You can also join a reptile club. Animals looking for homes get balloted out to members.

 

[sniffmylizard]

Seeing that we were asked our opinion (Vote) I would hope it was full of opinionated people.:shock:

Truly a very educated reply.

 

[solar 17]

When l was young my parents told me l could have what ever l wanted......just go and work to pay for it so you appreciate your purchase......solar 17 (Baden)

 

[Red-Ink]

I will take and accept all unwanted cash and give them a loving and well cared for home. Don't worry I already have an enclosure for all of them (my wallet), I have no intention of ever breeding them as I have never been successfull at that... Ohh I so wish I was, but if I'm ever successfull at breeding cash I will give some of the juveniles away as freebies to people to repay the kindness. Mainly the pink coloured ones (like juvenile Darwins), by the time they go through their ontogenic change and turn yellow (like Jungles) or green (like GTPs) I won't be able to part with them as I will be emotionally attached by then and I do like those colours - hence me owning a couple of JCPs and wanting a GTP.

PM me please if you have any to give away

 

[Norm]

Might as well throw my two cents worth in!

I have been the lucky recipiant of a free pair of snakes after someone ran out of time to sell them before they had to move, I answered an add on the spur of the moment, not really thinking they would still be available and was very surprised when I got a call to say they were mine. At the time of exchange we worked out a deal that if I`m successful in breeding them he gets first choice of a pair of hatchies.

However I don`t agree with advertising for free animals. I too have noticed the increase in these adds lately and congratulate Mungus for raising the issue and Colin for doing something about it.

By the way Mungus, my young fella`s been saving for an Albino Darwin, he`s got $23.65 lol!