Come to Australia and Die....

[snakeluvver]

mmafan55, jesus! Whats wrong with you! I think you'll find that I'm correct.
Most deadly jellyfish = Box Jelly, Australian
Most deadly snake = Inland Taipan, Australian
Most deadly bird = Cassowary, australian.
Most deadly spider = Sydney funnel web, Australian.

 

[waruikazi]

Now in Australia, cone shells, blue ringed octopuses (the correct plural of octopus is octopuses), snakes, sharks, box jelly fish, irukandji etc etc all have the POTENTIAL to be deadly... Just like electricity - a potential.

It's not like me to call a science teacher out on a scientific term BUT i think you'll find that octopus is from the Greek making the correct plural of octopus octopodes (pronounced octopodez).

 

[slim6y]

Maybe you're right, but the Macquarie Pocket Dictionary suggests either -puses or -pi

And I like BOTH!!!

Octopus is both a collective term and a 'individual' term in English. So it is commonly accepted as octopus, octopuses and octopi - octopodes is still correct if you're an uptight, arrogant, self centred, stuck up, linguist which tends to use overly verbose language to trump up their already over blown ego. Most people would call someone who says octopodes a toss....



But not you Gordo... I love you!

 

[dylan-rocks]

love the video especially that taipans look like a death adder now

 

[longqi]

The best part of this thread is that the deadliest venomous creature in Australia is the European honey bee
Deadliest because it kills the most people annually 10

The deadliest living creature apart from man in Australia is the horse 24

Potentially Australia is full of danger
But potential and fact are very different
..

 

[waruikazi]

Maybe you're right, but the Macquarie Pocket Dictionary suggests either -puses or -pi

And I like BOTH!!!

Octopus is both a collective term and a 'individual' term in English. So it is commonly accepted as octopus, octopuses and octopi - octopodes is still correct if you're an uptight, arrogant, self centred, stuck up, linguist which tends to use overly verbose language to trump up their already over blown ego. Most people would call someone who says octopodes a toss....



But not you Gordo... I love you!

The Maq dictionary apparently doesn't have a grasp on the historical roots of our language!

As it happens i am a linguistics specialist, i got a pass conceded in my linguistics elective in my fourth year of university which makes me a teacher specialising in linguistics. To top that off i am a full time ESL teacher!

So pigs to your octopuses!

And to take it just a lil' further! Blue ringed ocotpodes are not an endemic species of Australia! They are (well one of them) native to Australia and also found throughout the tropical waters of the Pacific. So we can't claim that one, that would be like claiming Russel Crowe as an Aussie, who would want that? :S

 

[slim6y]

You can have Russell Crowe... he's an Aussie... But give us back Phar Lap and Split Enz...

Secondly... Just because they occur in other parts of the world, doesn't make Australia any less dangerous...

Thirdly... Not sure if I mentioned it... But I don't think I'd ever call Australia the DEADLIEST place on earth... however, it's up there with having some of the most deadly animals on earth... Not to mention Hugh Jackman too!

I like to say that there are a lot of harmful animals in Australia that could potentially do damage, and that's a FACT!

 

[FAY]

Hate to say it Slim, but Russell Crowe is a New Zealander. You lot can HAVE him!!! We don't want him!! LOL

 

[slim6y]

And America can have mmafan555...

We'll keep our dangerous animals, and he'll keep thinking that they're not dangerous based on the fact not many people have died from them (recently).

 

[cement]

Poor old Rusty Crowbar, he was bitten by a blue ringed octiplod.

 

[snakeluvver]

And America can have mmafan555...

We'll keep our dangerous animals, and he'll keep thinking that they're not dangerous based on the fact not many people have died from them (recently).

Yeah, just because people havent been killed by a taipan or funnel web ect recently doesn't make them any less deadly.

 

[slim6y]

I have two minutes and I want to add this:

Cyclone Yasi - Hurrican Katrina

Cyclone Yasi killed Nil... No one died as a direct result of Cyclone Yasi - one man died because he used a generator indoors, unfortunately that was stupidity that killed him.

Hurricane Katrina killed close to 1800 people...

Why???

Population density, economic status etc etc...

Australia is just a much better place to live simple and true... Fact!

An 8 year old girl was killed while swimming in the ocean near Cape Tribulation - she got stung by a box jellyfish. Fact.

A 16 year old, fit, healthy young man died when he picked up an eastern brown, failed to immobilise and pressure bandage, instead he walked 1.6km to get help, collapsed and died.

A young boy was walking his dog at the Daintree on a boardwalk after recent flooding events. His dog jumped in the water, the boy jumped in after him, a crocodile killed the boy, the dog got out unharmed.

These three stories, all fact, all in Australia, all with local animals.

I'm not saying we're WORSE than any country... nor Better... though we're a lot better than America.... All of America!

But... We most definitely have DEADLY ANIMALS! F A C T ! ! !

 

[Snake_Whisperer]

Hate to burst your bubble, but that picture was actually taken in Brazil. Its not a redback, its a relative.

I hate to be the burster of your bubble mate! That particular story was in South Africa, it's a Brown Button spider eating an Aurora House snake.

I see mmafan has been at this thread so I am sure it is going to be deleted soon. If you'd like mate, I have access to every species of Australian elapid, you can come over and I can arrange a testing session for ya! Which would you like to be bitten by first?

 

[mmafan555]

I see mmafan has been at this thread so I am sure it is going to be deleted soon. If you'd like mate, I have access to every species of Australian elapid, you can come over and I can arrange a testing session for ya! Which would you like to be bitten by first?

Sure if you let yourself be bitten by a highly venomous asian snake... In fact lets go a step further... I will let myself be bitten/stung by a box jellyfish and a red back spider and then you get attacked by a bear and bitten by a krait.

 

[slim6y]

Snake_Whisperer - Is there a recommendation? Would it be better to start with a red belly perhaps and then move on to a brown? Or would it be better to start at taipan and work backwards so it won't stress your snakes as much?

Or, even better, start at cone shell... and you won't even need a snake...

Or, want to numb the bite area first, start with the blue ringed octopus...

Maybe he's more into physical violence... perhaps he'd like to pick up a baby cassowary in front of the daddy. Noting that the dad is the primary care giver.

Anyhow... I don't care how he cops it... so long it's not over too quickly...

 

[mmafan555]

The Maq dictionary apparently doesn't have a grasp on the historical roots of our language!

As it happens i am a linguistics specialist, i got a pass conceded in my linguistics elective in my fourth year of university which makes me a teacher specialising in linguistics. To top that off i am a full time ESL teacher!

So pigs to your octopuses!

And to take it just a lil' further! Blue ringed ocotpodes are not an endemic species of Australia! They are (well one of them) native to Australia and also found throughout the tropical waters of the Pacific. So we can't claim that one, that would be like claiming Russel Crowe as an Aussie, who would want that? :S

Blue ringed octopuses, box jellyfish[ including chironex fleckeri] cone snails, stonefish are all found in other countries[ not just australia] and many of them are found throughout the entire indo pacific/asian region.

Stonefish distribution

Stonefish
Computer Generated Distribution Map


Cone snail distribution

Geographic Cone Snail Printable Page from National Geographic Animals


Chironex Fleckeri map

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Chironex_fleckeri_Range_Map.svg

 

[slim6y]

Sure if you let yourself be bitten by a highly venomous asian snake... In fact lets go a step further... I will let myself be bitten/stung by a box jellyfish and a red back spider and then you get attacked by a bear and bitten by a krait.

What I think you've done, again, is misinterpret facts with fiction...

The first thing to note is I (that is me) did not compare Australia to other countries... I merely stated you can get very dead by being smacked by one of many various animals in Australia... And we have our own bears that you don't want to mix with... Drop Bears... I'd take your grizzly over a droppy any day of the year!!!

 

[REPTILIAN-KMAN]

and watch out for drop bears !!!!

there killers

 

[mmafan555]

Snake_Whisperer - Is there a recommendation? Would it be better to start with a red belly perhaps and then move on to a brown? Or would it be better to start at taipan and work backwards so it won't stress your snakes as much?

Or, even better, start at cone shell... and you won't even need a snake...
Or, want to numb the bite area first, start with the blue ringed octopus...

Maybe he's more into physical violence... perhaps he'd like to pick up a baby cassowary in front of the daddy. Noting that the dad is the primary care giver.

Anyhow... I don't care how he cops it... so long it's not over too quickly...

The whole .. well then "let a brown snake bite you if its not deadly" argument is absurd.. No one said Australia doesn't have dangerous animals that have the potential to kill you and have killed people. What I did say was that its ridiculous to claim that australia has the most dangerous animals of any continent or that it is even comparable to asian or africa in this regard. Thats all I was complaining about. Never said anything about Australia having no dangerous animals.

 

[slim6y]

Blue ringed octopuses, box jellyfish[ including chironex fleckeri] cone snails, stonefish are all found in other countries[ not just australia] and many of them are found throughout the entire indo pacific/asian region.

Stonefish distribution

Stonefish
Computer Generated Distribution Map


Cone snail distribution

Geographic Cone Snail Printable Page from National Geographic Animals


Chironex Fleckeri map

File:Chironex fleckeri Range Map.svg - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I think I made it VERY CLEAR that I wasn't talking about other countries but I sure as knew that these things exist in OTHER countries... it DOES NOT MAKE AUSTRALIA ANY LESS DANGEROUS!!!!

Wow, you know how to turn a good, fun thread, into an even more fun thread...