evil rats

[diprotodon]

ok so yesterday ive got two female rats with 10 pinks each ,but tonight i get home and one of the rats has ate 5 of her pinks and striped the skin of two of them i know its grusome but can it be possible to just have evil rats:evil: as this is the third one in about that many weeks to have done this .How can you tell weather they are going to do this, is there anyway to avoid this from happening she is now in the belly of my carpet so her days are over .She was in a tub by herself fed fresh veg and eats staple of a baristoc rat/mouse pellet as well as getting some dog food mixed through 'not a lot mind you 'but a bit fresh water and its only got down to about 15 degrees in there at night.As ive only been breeding rats a short while its just a bit crap that every time i get up some sort of stock , the evil little buggars eat them. I got the rats from a guy near where i live he had about 200 or so going and had been breeding for about 7 months so there is a chance of some inbreeding taking place before i got my first gang of rats could this be the reason for my troubles .Anyway was mad as:x:x about it happening again

 

[KaaTom]

I had a female rat that ate a few of her litters adn also attacked other rats litters yet after all that she has reared 2 litters and just had another. Soe will say diet is a key to this and others will say that it just happens. I have no rational idea behind it.
As for the inbreeding thats just rodents for you, I occasionally buy new stock fom different people to change things but after a few litters its hard to tell who is who.
One thing though is maybe because you bought these rats with babies you may have disturbed them in a different way to the previous owner. I have bought 2 litters from 2 different places, 1 litter was fine the other mum killed off all her bubs.

 

[No-two]

I had one kill off 10 almost weaned rats the other day. I culled her and fed her to a bhp. No point keeping them even if they do it once.

 

[diprotodon]

I had a female rat that ate a few of her litters adn also attacked other rats litters yet after all that she has reared 2 litters and just had another. Soe will say diet is a key to this and others will say that it just happens. I have no rational idea behind it.
As for the inbreeding thats just rodents for you, I occasionally buy new stock fom different people to change things but after a few litters its hard to tell who is who.
One thing though is maybe because you bought these rats with babies you may have disturbed them in a different way to the previous owner. I have bought 2 litters from 2 different places, 1 litter was fine the other mum killed off all her bubs.

cheers for the thought there , the rats didnt have the bubs when i got them but i hear ya really cant get how cruel they are to there own just one of those things then,thanks:|

 

[diprotodon]

I had one kill off 10 almost weaned rats the other day. I culled her and fed her to a bhp. No point keeping them even if they do it once.

you would think that would be best to kull out the evil:evil:if you no what i mean cheers:evil:

 

[Snake_Whisperer]

you would think that would be best to kull out the evil:evil:if you no what i mean cheers:evil:

Believe it or not, that is actually correct. Any rats behaving aggressively are culled from my facility immediately. No point in keeping difficult animals, they are too much work and too stinky to be misbehaving.

 

[Stranger]

I heard they do this because Its cold? Is this right?

 

[diprotodon]

I heard they do this because Its cold? Is this right?

it doesnt seem to be only cold related because it hasnt got that cold up here yet.. According to whats been shared and what i have learned is that its just a combination of factors that snaps there little brains into some sort of survival mode which in there case does not include expending anymore energy on there young and actually choosing to replenish them selves by eating the young ",I reckon the darkside :evil:makes them do it"!!!

 

[Lonewolf]

the reson that she si doing this can be a few things
1 shes over clening them
2 theres two many babys

 

[Wild~Touch]

One way trip to the freezer if I see them eat babies - No Excuses

One of my young mumma rats raised 15 healthy babies (to yearling woma meal size
so lotsa kids didn't worry her

Cheers
Sandee

 

[diprotodon]

One way trip to the freezer if I see them eat babies - No Excuses

One of my young mumma rats raised 15 healthy babies (to yearling woma meal size
so lotsa kids didn't worry her

Cheers
Sandee

i agree there just good and bad so weed out the evil anyway makes for a quick clunking when im angry!!:x

 

[diprotodon]

the reson that she si doing this can be a few things
1 shes over clening them
2 theres two many babys

And i thought my mother was bad

 

[beeman]

the problem will be with the feed you are using and or a stressfull environment,
We breed rats in a largish way and we dont have them eating litters and as for having 10 pups being a problem if any of ours drop below a minimum of 12 they are culled.
Our rats constantly have litters averaging 17 with no probs at all

 

[Aslan]

I have had one female kill her babies, she got knocked on the head. I agree with Snake Whisperer, too stinky to think they can get away with being difficult.

I had a female who kept managing to escape from a tub (no other rats have ever done it) - she got belted too - too much hassle when she is just as useful in a snake's gut...

 

[diprotodon]

the problem will be with the feed you are using and or a stressfull environment,
We breed rats in a largish way and we dont have them eating litters and as for having 10 pups being a problem if any of ours drop below a minimum of 12 they are culled.
Our rats constantly have litters averaging 17 with no probs at all

thanks beeman i dont think its stress so now looking at feed ,great to hear about large litters i was sure it was possible for them to raise 10 or more cheers

 

[taylor111]

not enough protein in there diet
i normally give them some roo meat just befour they give birth

 

[diprotodon]

not enough protein in there diet
i normally give them some roo meat just befour they give birth

Thanks looks like thats the defining factor cheers .

 

[beeman]

Mate get off the barastock feed and you will do a hell of a lot better, We had issues with barastock as they changed the formula and its no longer a feed but a feed supliment.

 

[xScarlettex]

youll probably find that most rats are inbred strains anyway so i wouldnt worry about the inbreeding, you can inbreed a rat for 3 generations before genetics causes an issue, some rats are just bad mothers, ususally those with no experience, also if they dont feel secure they can cull their litters (if you disrupt them, if theyre housed with other rats, if they can smell male pheremones etc) or if they think that the pups are in illhealth or if theres too many pups or if a pup has already died, in animal breeding facilities like the imvs they cull any bad mothers and start fresh with new animals, seems to be the only way

 

[diprotodon]

so have increased protein and the results are quite noticeable the rats seem to be more perky the males now are starting to hump again before they seemed tuckered out and had no go! the females so far havent shown any signs of evil:evil: and fingers crossed they will not turn to the darkside like there cousins .So onward and upward! rats away!!
Even though its only been a few days im back optemistic and ready for a clunking cheers