Fairly urgent hatchling beardie help required

[rubysnake]

In my post, I did not wish to offend any vets, because I believe that a good vet may be very very knowledgeable and helpful with mammals, however, I feel that if they are not up to scratch with reptile diagnosis they should refer the patient to someone who is, not write them off...
I feel that it is just un-necessary heartbreak to people who love their reptiles so much.

Anyhow, let just keep positive for Nicman

exactly. before i lost Khan (jungle python) my vet did everything he possibly could to help save him ringing specialists referring to texted books and printing me the information. once he found out what was wrong, he told me everything we could do just in case he was one of the 10% that pulled through and how to spot when the time came when he was unable to recover.


GO FOXY BABY!

 

[nicman72]

Just a quickie... Foxy's still on the mend (woohoo!) - only 2 crickets today, but she also downed a bunch of Hills, so the weight is hopefully starting to stick (she's still too light to register on the scales we've got, so don't know for certain. I'll be buying some good scales when I get back to the coast with a handful of cash).
She's still pooing okay too, plus she's full of beans, so all's good on the Foxy front. We'll continue with the night-heating, calcium water, and Hills formula for a bit longer yet, but I reckon I might be able to tie this thread off before too long... with a happy ending! (I hope it's not too early to make that call).
Cheers guys, hope all your scaly children are doing well!
Nic

 

[Jasspa]

That's good to hear nicman, keep us posted and we'll keep up with the positive thoughts!

 

[Dragon_Lover_85]

Hey there Nic I am so glad to hear Foxy is coming along so well mate. Good on you and your missus. Sounds like you guys have done a fantastic job to get this little girl on the road to recovery, well done!!!!!!

Personally as far as your heat light at night goes I would keep going with that until she is maybe around 6 months as you dont know how much this event may have weakend her immune system. My babies are under constant heat too now after I lost my little girl (netted) a few weeks back and the rest are now doing fantastic.

When it comes to vets well where do you start..............In short if you have reptiles see a dedicated qualified reptile specialist as most general vets (not meaning to offend) no doubt maybe fantastic with mammals but havent a clue when it comes to reptiles therefore should not even offer an opinion. I have just been through the same case as you nic with my vet, he was talking about a post-mortem before she had even died!!

 

[nicman72]

Thanks again for all the positive thoughts...
I didn't get the news I was hoping for when I rang home this arvo; Foxy only ate one cricket today, a tiny bit of Hills, and that's it. She was lethargic again, eyes closed, and wasn't interested in drinking any water. Also, no poos today. Hope this is just a small blip on her road to recovery.
We'll do as you say DragonLover, and keep the night heat going for the next few months. They really, really are so fragile at this age, hey! In the wild, there's a very good chance she wouldn't have made it this far already, but we're going to help her through this difficult stage of her life with all of our effort, whatever it takes.
As for the vet vent, I think I will actually save that for a whole new thread once this critical period for Foxy has passed. I really want to stay positive for her sake.
On a good note, Ruby, Foxy's sister, is doing famously - absolutely nothing to worry about there, thank goodness!
Anyway, I guess I'll make a few more posts on this thread yet, for those who might be following little Foxy's progress. Go little girl!
Cheers,
Nic

 

[Dragon_Lover_85]

Fingers crossed for you mate. Go little Foxy you can make it hun!!!!
Great to hear Ruby doin well mate at least with her doing so well you know that whatever is happening to Foxy is not your fault.

 

[nicman72]

Okay guys, I'm sorry to do this, but I'm going to have to ask for some more advice; Foxy is really sliding downhill... Although we haven't changed anything in the last week, she's just decided to stop eating again. She's eaten only two little crickets in the last four days. She hates the Hill's formula, and is now starting to hate my partner for trying to force it into her. She hardly moves, eyes always closed, not pooing, and totally disinterested in eating anything. She even hated the sunlight today when the missus took her outside for a bask. In fact, it really sounds like she's on her last legs...
This absolutely sucks, especially considering the fact that she gave us that brief period of hope...
Please, I don't know what else we can do, so if ANYONE has any more ideas, we will give them a go. My missus was in tears when I spoke to her this arvo, and all I want to do is go home to be with both of them, but I still have another 7 days of work left... I feel utterly rotten and completely upset.
Thanks again in advance for any useful advice... Poor, poor little Foxy. C'mon little girl, hang in there... Please don't die on us...
Nic

 

[Dragon_Lover_85]

Mate I'd love to help you but sadly I think you are doing about all you can. Poor little girl all we can do is keep our fingers crossed and send our well wishes for her and hope she comes through this, its up to her now. Come on Foxy sweetie you can do it!!!

 

[babba007]

How's little Foxy doing? I've been following this thread and I really hope the outcome is a good one. Go Foxy go!!

 

[nagini-baby]

good luck lil foxy

 

[Bretsta]

i use a product called Herpaboost, which my local Beardie Whisperer put me on to. Has all the nutrients and vitamins the beardies need to survive, plus, it makes them want to eat. have had to use it with one of my little guys. i'd definitely give it a go. seems to work well. keep in mind, this product needs to be kept in a fridge, and can't be left out for more than 30-45mins. so if your not real close to a shop, maybe take a small esky or cooler bag. Hope this helps, and good luck. i know the feeling of a sick beardie!!

 

[Scale_Addiction]

Beardie Whisperer

WIN Noun my friend!

 

[Bretsta]

WIN Noun my friend!

cheers, i like it, lol. the guy seems to know everything. 30 minute answer for a yes or no beardie question. Which is a good thing. least i get to know more, and i know my little guys are getting what they need. But the name seems appropriate, lol

 

[Dragon_Lover_85]

Hey Brett sounds like something deffinately worth trying. Where do you get it from and what dosage should be used? Also can it be used on netteds too?

Hey Nic, no news today huh? I hope this is a good thing and Foxy is still with us and fighting on. Good luck little girl!!!!!!

 

[Bretsta]

Hey Brett sounds like something deffinately worth trying. Where do you get it from and what dosage should be used? Also can it be used on netteds too?

Hey Nic, no news today huh? I hope this is a good thing and Foxy is still with us and fighting on. Good luck little girl!!!!!!

i buy it from my local pet shop, and it can be used on all reptiles.

bottle say's:

"Provides essential energy, amino acids, and vitamins for the nutritional support of all reptiles during periods of stress, anorexia, illness, dehydration or to stimulate juvenile feeding."

"Dosage: 3-8ml per 100g body weight, per feed or as required. May be given at 1.5ml-4ml per 100g body weight as an ongoing maintenance dose. Dose orrally via feeding tube, syringe or inject into food item."

i use syringe as my little beardie can't be relied on to eat a food item it's injected to as is the problem here. as someone said before, gently pull down the side of there lip and place the syringe into mouth. do little bits at a time, and i find to be patient and pat the animal between doing this to calm them works well. sometimes if you place a little bit on the tip of there mouth and they will lick it up, but as you can't put to much there that can take a while. a couple of time i've been lucky for my girl to bite the end of the syringe, then you can just quickly inject most or all of the contents.

I've heard some people use this on dragons that aren't sick whilst there young every now and then just to give them a healthy appetite. i myself haven't, but if you have a dragon (or something else) that is not eating as much as they should, this stuff might be worth a go.

here is a link so you can see the bottle:

HERPAVET HERPABOOST 50mL - Vetafarm Pty Ltd

Good luck mate.

 

[Renagade]

try meal worms as a last ditch effort. although i don't recomend them for hatchies, my pygmies are all over you for them, i have to block lemm running out and climing me for them, esp the pupa form. also this stage is really soft and fatty.
ren

 

[nicman72]

Thanks for all the advice lads and ladies... Here's a quick update on Foxy first.
Up until yesterday, she had eaten only 2 crickets in 5 days (both on the same day), and as I said in my last post, she wasn't showing many signs of 'wanting' to recover, ie. she was just sitting on the same spot of log, day and night, not raising her head or opening her eyes, no poos, and totally disinterested in any type of food. She's still getting regular sprays of calcium water, of which she'll drink the drops that form on her chin.
Yesterday morning I received a happier phone call from my partner - Foxy had eaten 3 dusted crickets, and there was a little poo in the cage, but that was the end of the good news. She didn't respond to any more food throughout the day, and she hasn't shown any more interest today.
Renegade, we've tried her on mini-mealies, but again with no luck; we were told by the vet to try baby wax-worms, but we can't find anywhere that sells them.
Thank-you very much for the info on Herpaboost, Bretsta. My missus is scouring the coast today to try and get a bottle. Hopefully this will give her a bit more appetite as you said.
Thanks again for the posts; I had no idea anyone would still be interested in this thread, considering how old it is. As I've already said, while there's life there's hope, and Foxy is still fighting what seem like huge odds against her, so there is absolutely no way that my partner and I are going to give up the fight before her. C'mon little Foxy girl, you can make it!
ps. Did I mention she's an absolute glamour???!!! (in my eyes anyway ). She's already owns a big
part of my heart... it seems she might have stolen a few of your hearts too, hey?
Many sincere thanks,
Nic

 

[Dragon_Lover_85]

She certainly has mate, good luck with bretsta's remedy hope it works for you. C'mon little Foxy girl!!!!!

 

[shellfisch]

I hate seeing that there is an update on this thread. I usually dread looking
What an emotional rollercoaster! And for you too Nicman72

Wishing Foxy and you guys well xxxx

 

[152Boy]

oh i hope she gets better! good luck!