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solar 17
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"stunning aussies"
You had to be quicker than greased lightning for those Aussies that are around that have really no "Sorong" type colouring [black] on their tales or faded [blue] spinal smudging, apart from the white dorsal dotting,....cheers solar 17 [Baden] ....Those available may well be Aussies, but it leaves relying on the sellers say so and as there have been retractions in the past and well in the end its your choice and your money.....
You had to be quicker than greased lightning for those Aussies that are around that have really no "Sorong" type colouring [black] on their tales or faded [blue] spinal smudging, apart from the white dorsal dotting,....cheers solar 17 [Baden] ....Those available may well be Aussies, but it leaves relying on the sellers say so and as there have been retractions in the past and well in the end its your choice and your money.....
moreliainsanity
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Aussie line chondro on herptrader fed 15 times, 1500 each or cheaper if you buy more
I think there will be room for locale and morph chondros in the future, just look at some of the screamers on maxwells book, canary, blue, green, red, marroon, ect endless potential.......
I think there will be room for locale and morph chondros in the future, just look at some of the screamers on maxwells book, canary, blue, green, red, marroon, ect endless potential.......
Jumala
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Aussies all the way ....... still have a lot of saving to do before I can get any. Too many other projects atm lol
Aussie line chondro on herptrader fed 15 times, 1500 each or cheaper if you buy more
Also saw that...born in October and starting to turn green already
I prefer Aussie greens over any of the others....not saying that I wouldnt own the other lines though. But personally I think the non-natives are becoming too cheap now (but thats supply and demand I guess).
Never, ever have I seen native hatchlings changing colour before 8 months of age.
Hemens line does not necessarily mean pure ausie line, he bred natives X PNG some years ago. I think it's a common knowledge.
I am not saying the ad is misleading but it's absolutely extraordinary for 3-4 months old natives to go green and to be big enough to feed on small rats.
Hemens line does not necessarily mean pure ausie line, he bred natives X PNG some years ago. I think it's a common knowledge.
I am not saying the ad is misleading but it's absolutely extraordinary for 3-4 months old natives to go green and to be big enough to feed on small rats.
waruikazi
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Also saw that...born in October and starting to turn green already
I prefer Aussie greens over any of the others....not saying that I wouldnt own the other lines though. But personally I think the non-natives are becoming too cheap now (but thats supply and demand I guess).
ALot of people say stuff like this (just look at this thread) but i wonder how many people claiming they prefer one locality over the other could identify the different races of adult chondros. I'm tipping not many.
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solar 17
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Big greens
GEE WIZZ...l must be slow or something.....mine are [7-8] months old before l switch to day old pinkie rats and 90-100 grams, l mean the majority are born around 10 grams [+/-] 2grams with Waterrats getting up to 15 grams and for those unfamiliar they are about the same size as a newborn spotted/ childrens/stimmie.....cheers solar 17 [Baden] ...ps l am referring to those on Herptrader that Mattsnake is referring to as well....
Also saw that...born in October and starting to turn green already
I prefer Aussie greens over any of the others....not saying that I wouldnt own the other lines though. But personally I think the non-natives are becoming too cheap now (but thats supply and demand I guess).
GEE WIZZ...l must be slow or something.....mine are [7-8] months old before l switch to day old pinkie rats and 90-100 grams, l mean the majority are born around 10 grams [+/-] 2grams with Waterrats getting up to 15 grams and for those unfamiliar they are about the same size as a newborn spotted/ childrens/stimmie.....cheers solar 17 [Baden] ...ps l am referring to those on Herptrader that Mattsnake is referring to as well....
Especially in Aust. Most of the localities are fairly muddled up.
I'm just happy to be able to keep a couple of these amazing critters!
Most of non-native GTPs in Australia were captive bred either in Asian snake farms or in US or Europian collections. Some illegal collecting of wild GTPs still goes on in parts of PNG, West Papua, even Biak but those snakes are on order from US herpers (specialists) who finance the collectors. The snakes are not cheap, even on the US market. So, if you can buy a "pure Biak chondro" for 2K in Australia, you would be naive to believe that it is from a pure line. Best you can say it's a Biak type and hope that future generations won't show any genetic contamination from different locality races.
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I definitely would like to own pure aussie ones and think that those lines should be kept clean but would also like to own some of the non native as well, especially red babies......
As long as they are advertised for what they are its all good. The prices on the non natives are also coming down which is good for the average joe. The aussies have dropped but are still probably a bit out of reach for a lot people, not saying they are overpriced though.
Just my 2 cents,
Dave
As long as they are advertised for what they are its all good. The prices on the non natives are also coming down which is good for the average joe. The aussies have dropped but are still probably a bit out of reach for a lot people, not saying they are overpriced though.
Just my 2 cents,
Dave
I'll put up my hand and say that I couldnt tell the adults of the different races apart. Id just prefer to own a true Australian native animal...but if I was given an adult animal and told it was native even though it wasnt I wouldnt know the difference (unless of course it had strong Biak or Sorong traits) - but then whos to say that Im even capable of picking up on those traits?
I think most(not all) of them are illegal and are way over priced, the massive price encourages illegal importation that risks bringing in more viruses etc. no better than keeping many other illegal exotics IMO, just you are unlikely to get caught.
Natives are obviously differant as they arnt likely to be imported, but some are even crossing them with exotics for a quick buck
With some exceptions i see GTP's as a very dodgy part of herp keeping in Australia.
Aussies look the best
and why aren't you at work Ryan:shock: saw your mates at swanbank bored cause you had the truck at home
obviously the question of which green is better kept you up all night and made you sick with worry :lol::lol:
and why aren't you at work Ryan:shock: saw your mates at swanbank bored cause you had the truck at home
obviously the question of which green is better kept you up all night and made you sick with worry :lol::lol:
lol not all night
Aussies look the best
and why aren't you at work Ryan:shock: saw your mates at swanbank bored cause you had the truck at home
obviously the question of which green is better kept you up all night and made you sick with worry :lol::lol:
I think most(not all) of them are illegal and are way over priced, the massive price encourages illegal importation that risks bringing in more viruses etc. no better than keeping many other illegal exotics IMO, just you are unlikely to get caught.
Natives are obviously differant as they arnt likely to be imported, but some are even crossing them with exotics for a quick buck
With some exceptions i see GTP's as a very dodgy part of herp keeping in Australia.
It gets me every time someone states that GTPs are overpriced.
Tell us cris, how much money do you have in your pocket to buy a GTP? If you had thousand bucks, would you spend it on a GTP? How much would you pay for one right now?
My feeling (supported by evidence) is that those complaining about the price are not even in the market for a GTP.
Looking forward to your reply.
well said
waruikazi
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I recon i would pay about $500 for a chondro.
I could afford to buy several of them even when they were at a sillier price but i don't think they are worth that money. I think alot of people feel the same way but they spend the money on them because they see the potential $$$ in them.
In short, people aren't buying them because they like them they are buying them as an investment.
Ramsayi
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Not necessarily true.Wanting to buy aussie greens is one thing,finding them is another.Proof of origin is the stumbling block for me as I have found the best I can hope for is the word of the seller.I am not taking a swipe at anyone in particular,it's genuinely what I have found.
GeckoJosh
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Considering the amount it actually costs to breed them, yes they are over priced imo then again so are Amyae, Apsers etc
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