How long till we can trade with W.A. ?

[JunglePython]

Does anyone know when Breeders in W.A. will be able to buy from other states and visa versa?

Are pygmies being bred on licence?

What about W.A. womas?

 

[basketcase]

im pretty sure you can do it now

ive been talking with a few ppl about getting some adders. only problem is the massive permit price and the extra cash you have to pay for vens

 

[Parko]

Hey JunglePython, Womas 4 me recently posted a thread on ''red stimsons'' and in that thread she said she could already export to other states from WA but the export fee was expensive($185 if I remember correct) If you are importing a few snakes may not be so bad.
Do a search for ''red Stimsons'' and you will find the thread.

 

[Fuscus]

So what do you need to do to get a WA collectors licence?

 

[peterescue]

Money mr Fuscus, money.
You can buy from WA. Export permit is $150. You can have 5 animals on a permit then $30 for each extra animal. Add air freight and local permit.
So 5 westerns at $150 each plus permit, freight and NSW permit is only about $1000.
Export to WA isa pain. You will need to have them inspected. They will need certification for clean bill of health.$$$$$$$$$$
Peter

 

[Fuscus]

This is just idle thinking but I have some time off which I will need to take in a fultile attempt to maintain my sanity and I was thinking along the lines of

Collectors permit
Export licence
Flight to Brome.

 

[Magpie]

I believe that CALM mess the collectors around something chronic if they apply for an export permit? Having said that, as long as you are happy to buy WC snakes and the collector is happy to go to the effort, I think it works out not too expensive for some DAMN AWESOME snakes. I inquired with someone recently and if I had the readies would have gone with the deal. Unfortunately, the cash just wasn't there Fuscus, there is not many permits being issued and I think you would have to be a resident of WA to get one. Possibly though, you could contact one of the people with permits, go and stay there for 2 weeks and go out with them when they go collecting?? I think a few of them are specialising in blackheads and womas so things like stimmies they may not be too fussed on selling you 10 of? BTW, pygmies are not on the WA licence system yet.

 

[peterescue]

I think you need to make more of a financial commitment beyond the takers permit.
I was under the impression that you needed to have the correct facilities to maintain these animals which requires some phyical and fiscal assests.
Peter

 

[PilbaraPythons]

To All Interested
First of all any body that holds a licence in any state can import from W.A as long as it done through a licensed reptile dealer here. We are one of 14 dealers in this state but are only one of three that hold the highest category of licence (category 5). This allows us to export venomous reptiles as well. The correct export fee payable to C.A.L.M. is $150 plus $30 for record return plus $ 20 transfer fee total $190. These fee are per consignment with a maximum of five( $190 divided by five is $38 per animal )plus freight.
We can only sell 41 species and they are divided in to 4 category?s starting from category 2 up to category 5. These are as follows;
CAT 2
Scientific Name Common Name
Egernia napoleonis South-Western Crevice Egernia
Gehyra variegata Tree Dtella
Heteronotia binoei Binoe's Gecko
Litoria caerulea Northern Green Tree Frog
Litoria moorei Western Green Tree Frog
Pogona minor minor Western Bearded Dragon
Strophurus ciliaris Northern Spiny-tailed Gecko
Strophurus spinigerus South-west Spiny-tailed Gecko
Tiliqua multifasciata Centralian Bluetongue
Tiliqua occipitalis Western Bluetongue
Tiliqua rugosa rugosa Bobtail
CAT 2
Category 3
Scientific Name Common Name
Antaresia stimsoni Stimson's Python
Chelodina oblonga Oblong Tortoise
Ctenophorus reticulatus Western Netted Dragon
Egernia kingii King Skink
Litoria splendida Magnificent Tree Frog
Morelia spilota imbricata South-western Carpet Python
Nephrurus levis Three-lined Knob-tailed Gecko
Oedura marmorata Marbled Velvet Gecko
Underwoodisaurus milii Thick-tailed Gecko
Varanus caudolineatus Stripe-tailed Pygmy Monitor

Category 4
Scientific Name Common Name
Aspidites melanocephalus Black-headed python
Aspidites ramsayi Woma Python
Chelodina steindachneri Flat-shelled Turtle
Chlamydosaurus kingi Frilled Lizard
Heleioporus albopunctatus Western Spotted Frog
Lophognathus longirostris Long-nosed Ta-ta Dragon
Varanus acanthurus Ridge-tailed Monitor
Varanus brevicauda Short-tailed Pygmy Monitor
Varanus tristis tristis Black-tailed Monitor

Category 5
Scientific Name Common Name
Acanthopis antarcticus Southern Death Adder
Acanthopis pyrrhus Desert Death Adder
Acanthopis wellsi Pilbara Death Adder
Liasis olivaceus Olive Python
Notechis scutatus Tiger Snake
Pseudechis australis Mulga Snake
Pseudechis butleri Spotted Mulga Snake
Pseudonaja affinis affinis Dugite
Pseudonaja nuchalis Gwardar
Varanus gouldii Gould's Monitor
Varanus rosenbergi Southern Heath Monitor

People need to realize that there are royalties paid on all animals taken from the wild and this starts from $25 cat 2 , $50 cat 3, $100 cat 4, $200 cat 5. These fees have to be passed on to the price on any animal purchased. This as anybody can easily work out makes some species? simply unfinancially viable to import. I hope this helps clear up the situation Any enquiries you can e-mail us at
[email protected] or phone 08 91401156
Cheers Dave Mackintosh

 

[JunglePython]

thanks for the list.

 

[Robert]

Yes very nice to know.
Thanks for that Pilbara.Will keep you in mind for WA shippings.
Some animals there that i would pay the fee's for shipping etc.

 

[Fuscus]

Thats for that PeePee As I said its idle thinking.
Interesting that Egernia kingii are on the list

 

[Simon_Archibald]

I am guessing because it is not on that list that you are not allowed to collect Pilbara Rock Monitors???

Simon Archibald

 

[westaussie]

well fuscy, I have found that there is not a lot of interest over here for
E. kingii
I have had a lot of interest from interstate regarding some of our elapids
& the high prices sort out who is serious & who is not. I have had a lot of interest about my womas as well.

 

[westaussie]

And how about these bobtails (shinglebacks).


......Well I tried - it doesnt want to attatch the pic.

 

[Fuscus]

I havn't seen a Egernia kingii in the flesh so i don't really know what they look like, its just that until recently they were considered endangered. It appears that they are just hard to find and prefere areas with are regularly burnt.

 

[westaussie]

They are far from endangered fuscy & can be extremely common in some areas, living in large colonies on some limestone outcrops. There can be quite a geographical variation in colour forms too.

 

[Magpie]

Westy, I would love love love some west aussie bob tails, remind me of my childhood they do.

 

[westaussie]

I'll try to post these red ones again

 

[Magpie]

Saw some purplish ones when i was over there.... can't quite remember where.
PS, just post a link