swingonthespiral
Very Well-Known Member
Hi ladies and germs..... before i get started can we plase not turn this into a handling/not handling debate which always seems to end up turning stupid and offensive....
Last night a i attended my first NQ Herp Society meeting where a member from QPWS attending as a guest speaker in regards to movement of our herps. I compliment him for coming straight into the firing line.
Basically most of us are aware that we are not allowed to take them anywhere but the vets.
Now in my eyes this is ridiculous.
Ponder this for a moment..... we can take any dog say a pit bull (im not saying they are always nasty im just using this as an example) anywhere we like, public places, friends house etc. Now i would take a bite from my 3m male olive over a dog bite anyday (had both not fun:shock: ).
I can speak for at least 90% of the herp keepers when i say that we responsible and would not take our mental case spawn of satan jungles over to our friends house or to a herp meeting where other ppl, snakes nd kids will be.
The defence the QPSW memeber expressed was that yes its only 90% that would do that...... now come off it how many times, especially in those dog off leash exercise areas do u get idiots that let thier dog loose that obviously isnt socialised (or very much a hornbag if u catch me).... so again it would be 10% of dog owners that are knobs am I correct?
So why aren't we allowed to take our herps anywhere? Is this because of the public persona of reptiles? so wouldnt it be smarter if these awesome animals were displayed (for lack of a better word) more so the public could be educated and hopefully resulting in them being more accepted???? I'd have to say I have turned more people into at least accepting them and not hitting them with a shovel now than having anyone run scared.
I dont expect there to be reptile off leash areas :lol: ... i'm not expecting that we can take them down the beach (perhaps set times that we can....which they do with dogs back in NSW) ......just a little more freedom....
Perhaps like an applied and approved month or 3 month movement advice eg 1 morelia bredli will be taken to xxxxx (place of herp meeting) X amount of times and xxxxx (mums house etc) X amount of times during this period. Yes it would be hard to govern I understand but there must be something we could do.
The other thing he pointed out is what if our herps got loose.... again someones kelpie gets out and mauls a kid eat snative wildlife etc.... someones python gets out and probably sleeps in a shed for a few months....
And yes I understand that the effect that a MD getting out in nth qld could cause some probs on a natural breeding point but whats the damage of a cat or a dog to the native environment???
So what are everyones thoughts on this and is there anyway we can approach someone in regards to this????
Thanks guys!!!
Last night a i attended my first NQ Herp Society meeting where a member from QPWS attending as a guest speaker in regards to movement of our herps. I compliment him for coming straight into the firing line.
Basically most of us are aware that we are not allowed to take them anywhere but the vets.
Now in my eyes this is ridiculous.
Ponder this for a moment..... we can take any dog say a pit bull (im not saying they are always nasty im just using this as an example) anywhere we like, public places, friends house etc. Now i would take a bite from my 3m male olive over a dog bite anyday (had both not fun:shock: ).
I can speak for at least 90% of the herp keepers when i say that we responsible and would not take our mental case spawn of satan jungles over to our friends house or to a herp meeting where other ppl, snakes nd kids will be.
The defence the QPSW memeber expressed was that yes its only 90% that would do that...... now come off it how many times, especially in those dog off leash exercise areas do u get idiots that let thier dog loose that obviously isnt socialised (or very much a hornbag if u catch me).... so again it would be 10% of dog owners that are knobs am I correct?
So why aren't we allowed to take our herps anywhere? Is this because of the public persona of reptiles? so wouldnt it be smarter if these awesome animals were displayed (for lack of a better word) more so the public could be educated and hopefully resulting in them being more accepted???? I'd have to say I have turned more people into at least accepting them and not hitting them with a shovel now than having anyone run scared.
I dont expect there to be reptile off leash areas :lol: ... i'm not expecting that we can take them down the beach (perhaps set times that we can....which they do with dogs back in NSW) ......just a little more freedom....
Perhaps like an applied and approved month or 3 month movement advice eg 1 morelia bredli will be taken to xxxxx (place of herp meeting) X amount of times and xxxxx (mums house etc) X amount of times during this period. Yes it would be hard to govern I understand but there must be something we could do.
The other thing he pointed out is what if our herps got loose.... again someones kelpie gets out and mauls a kid eat snative wildlife etc.... someones python gets out and probably sleeps in a shed for a few months....
And yes I understand that the effect that a MD getting out in nth qld could cause some probs on a natural breeding point but whats the damage of a cat or a dog to the native environment???
So what are everyones thoughts on this and is there anyway we can approach someone in regards to this????
Thanks guys!!!
