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Hi all
I'm very very new to this, and don't actually own a reptile yet, as I want to get as much info as possible so my snake (as it's a snake I want to get) will live a wonderful happy healthy life. I know about getting the license, and some basic info about setting up my new snakes home, but I would really appreciate any info I can get from experienced owners. I know owning a snake is very very different from owning other pets. I have a few friends who have snakes as pets, so I'm also getting some advice from them, but I thought that since this forum is such a wealth of knowledge I'd see if anyone has any start up tips for me, including more info about enclosures, what sort of snake to chose (I'm thinking Python), and any other helpful stuff!
Thanks in advance!
 
pretty much find one that you like the look of :) they are all pretty good to keep. my first and 3rd snake was a diamond python, my second was a water python and the 4th is a woma :) my fav is the water python. they are all super chilled :) so i would just choose which ever one you like and go from there. some have different requirements so its hard to tell you exactly what you need . for any hatchy you can keep them in plastic tubs from coles or bunnings or $2 shops :) then they will need heat, so a heat mat with a thermostat to control the temp will be needed. hides and a water bowl as well as ventilation is also needed. then when they are big its pretty much the same set up except you can use heat lamps and globes in big enclosures. most pythons will fit in a 4ft cage but some grow bigger and some are smaller depending on what you get. they are so easy to look after its not funny :p the right temp, food once a week and water and they are pretty set :)
i am gathering u know u need a license so when u get that depending on ur state will let you know what u can and cant keep. then u can visit a pet shop or a breeder and purchase ur little fella :) easy!
 
All snakes can be Evil.. ALL snakes can be Nice.. Its the pick of the hat.. Id suggest going for a hatchling as you are new to snakes. and if it bites you there wont be any pain.. Although if you go anything bigger IMO its dangerous because your could get bitten then not want to touch or go near it again. which i have seen happen to multiple of my friends..
 
Check the Wiki at the top of the page frequently asked Questions should have most of the answers in there for you. Take everything you read here with a grain of salt, Welcome to the site and good luck
 
this site is like a bible when you get your new snake good luck one of the best hobbies there is:D
 
First of all, I think it's great that you want to get as much info as possible before you decide which snake to get. I find most people like......big ones....by that I mean, ones that grow 2 metres plus long....as for me, I like the little ones.. I have a Stimsons python, they only grow to about a metre, they are considered small. "Stimmies" are very placid. My "Barrie" is almost 15 months old, I've had him 2 months and he's my first ever snake. I advise you to read as much as you can about snakes and their habits, go to various breeders and shops that sell them, and you'll find people here very helpful. I'm a very new snake owner, I've learned a lot and still have heaps more to learn. They are wonderful creatures so good luck and take things slowly so you make the right choice for you. Cheers, Annie :)
 
Find several species you like the look of, and research them all for temperament. Nothing is worse than getting your first snake and it turns out to be a demon, striking and biting repeatedly, and making a bee line for the hide box at the slightest sight of you.

I have two bredli's which are puppy dogs, they're 3 years + and I'm sure one has even learnt to sniff around the top of it's enclosure to be let out for a cuddle...gives a nice massage around the shoulders too.

Although every species will have it's demon individuals, go for the ones typically docile, and from a breeder who can testament to their nature. Also juvies and hatchlings will naturally be snappy and flighty as they're food for just about anything in the wild until they grow.
 
Has anything in particular caught your eye yet zapparina if you let us know what you are looking at we may be able to give you more species specific advice.
 
Baby snakes should not go into large enclosures. I know setting up the enclosure is the most fun part and you can't wait to see your snake in there, happily wrapped around branches, but babies need to start off in click clacks - these are little tubs just big enough for a hide, water bowl and a basking place for them. By the time the snake is about a year old he should be well settled to be able to live permanent in an enclosure. When I moved my bredli's into enclosures, I gave them everything out of their tubs so that they are some familiar smells with them and even their tub if it fits in, let them have it until they are happy to come out. Had no problems with them, appetites didn't change, their temperament didn't change and they actually look comfortable.

Large homes for little snakes is rather frightening to them. He doesn't know that you aren't trying to eat him or that there are no predators in their enclosure. So he may be rather defensive and/or hide all day long. They are secretive animals and most often be happier in confinement rather than spread out for all to see. A book I am reading tells of a study that was done on diamond pythons. They caught the diamonds, microchipped them with tracking devices and released them. In a two period most of their snakes barely moved. None moved further than a few yards while some remained in same spot. This was good reading to help me get over the thought of squashing my snakes into too small enclosures.

One more from me - never underestimate the smallest hole. You don't close the door properly, the gap between the glass, airholes too big, snakes are expert escapees. Last thing you want is to bring your beautiful pet home, next morning he's gone and you look at the toys your kids have left everywhere and thing OMG how the ** am I gonna find him. hehe

Enjoy! They really aren't that hard. Don't let anyone tell you, you can't have a particular species just because its your first snake. Do your homework, if you think you can handle attitude, and accommodate them as full grown snakes, I say go for it.
 
While I certainly agree with mysnakesau's advice for new keepers (such as yourself), I've found that keeping young snakes in click clacks isn't essential. However, some serious though needs to be put into the enclosure design, and the snake's temperament needs to be assessed. If your snake hides a lot, then perhaps putting it into a large enclosure isn't a good idea. However, if your snake is always out and exploring, then maybe a bigger enclosure isn't out of the question.

As you can see in the photos, this is how I keep my six month old coastal carpet, and have kept him like it for several months now. I couldn't get a proper heat gradient in his click clack, so moved him into this enclosure. His feeding and shedding has not changed at all, but his temperament has become less aggressive (for whatever reason I do not know, and he is not handled very much at all). I always see him out and about, and that's him happily basking in full view of everyone.

Not trying to undermine mysnakesau's advice, just trying to point out that keeping snakes one way isn't the only way.

As for what snake you should buy, many of Australia's pythons are easy to keep. The Antaresia complex (spotteds, childrens, etc) are very small and easy to keep (my first snake was a spotted), and are easy to breed, but getting hatchlings to feed is usually somewhat difficult. Coastals and bredlis are all around good snakes. Get to a nice size and aren't usually aggressive. Diamonds are nice snakes, but need to be kept in certain ways in regards to temperatures and cooling to prevent early deaths.

Water pythons are nice snakes, but many a snappy. Olives and scrubbies probably aren't the best, as they get pretty big and could do some damage to you, and scrubbies in particular are known to be aggressive. Womas and black- headed pythons are also good all around snakes. Check out this link for a more detailed look: http://www.southernxreptiles.com/Article PDFs/road_testing_lr.pdf

One very simple word of advice is never buy a snake expecting that it won't bite. :) Owning snakes means that a some time, you are going to be bitten. But other than that, have fun with reptiles :D

Baby snakes should not go into large enclosures. I know setting up the enclosure is the most fun part and you can't wait to see your snake in there, happily wrapped around branches, but babies need to start off in click clacks - these are little tubs just big enough for a hide, water bowl and a basking place for them. By the time the snake is about a year old he should be well settled to be able to live permanent in an enclosure. When I moved my bredli's into enclosures, I gave them everything out of their tubs so that they are some familiar smells with them and even their tub if it fits in, let them have it until they are happy to come out. Had no problems with them, appetites didn't change, their temperament didn't change and they actually look comfortable.

Large homes for little snakes is rather frightening to them. He doesn't know that you aren't trying to eat him or that there are no predators in their enclosure. So he may be rather defensive and/or hide all day long. They are secretive animals and most often be happier in confinement rather than spread out for all to see. A book I am reading tells of a study that was done on diamond pythons. They caught the diamonds, microchipped them with tracking devices and released them. In a two period most of their snakes barely moved. None moved further than a few yards while some remained in same spot. This was good reading to help me get over the thought of squashing my snakes into too small enclosures.
 
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Wow, thanks everybody! There's some really good advice here!
In response to what snakes I'm thinking of getting I'm thinking either Bredli or a Stimson, beautiful patterns and, by the seems of it pretty good temperament!
Also I don't expect not to get bitten, I certainly expect a few bites, but as I am not getting a venomous snake a little bit of pain will be no worries at all.
I've worked in Kitchens and sliced my fingers that many times, a snake bite will just add to the myriad of scars I have on my arms and hands already :D.
Thanks again, you've all been so helpful, and any further advice is more than welcome!!!!
 
Bredli Or a Stimsons would be a great choice. Bredli grow to about 2m+ where as a stimson maxes out at about a meter both have very good temprements altho as ive stated before you never know what temprement it is going to have.
 
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