Rock Python

[Guest]

Looks like your getting the hang of it now mate

 

[cockney red]

Thanks Fay

Here goes.

Slick

Thats a very slim snake, for its length Slick. Would you say this is a typical example ?

 

[Gundeman]

Those are very small shorts for your length Slick. I'm sort of relieved these shorts are no longer common.

 

[Jungle_Freak]

What has happened with the Rough Scaled Python is a good example of what should be done for the Oenpelli Python .
But i seriously doubt the powers to be will consider this move and stabilise the Oenpelli Python as a species in captivity .
Best of luck to those trying to make it happen.
cheers
Roger

 

[Wild~Touch]

I would like to say Thank you to all contributors to this thread, it is like a breath of fresh air in a stifled world. Thanks again to the real herpetologists
Cheers
Sandee

 

[AUSHERP]

that photo is amazing, its a real part of the animals history and you should feel proud to be a part of that. thanks for sharing, i did also think they would be thicker at that length?

 

[FAY]

I am pretty sure that the oenpelli is a pretty slim snake.
From what I have heard, the aborigines discribed this python to Graeme Gow as a giant childrens python.

 

[AUSHERP]

i would still like to hear from goneself the thread creator, he did after all claim to be offered one of these beauties????
i wonder if it was a sham or an illegal animal......

 

[Pythoninfinite]

Ahhh... back from the Derby Mardi Gras... Now Greg, I think you should present those gorgeous legs (and shorts, if you still have them in your wardrobe) to the adoring Derby crowd next year - how's that for an offer you can't really refuse??? I think Derby deserves a treat...

Back to the main discussion... I think Slickturtle's idea has a lot of merit - we've discussed this several times in the past few months. For a species such as oenpelliensis, which occurs on 'country', is the approach usually to the wildlife 'authorities' first, and the TOs second? I wonder if it might be better to go the other way - have real discussion with the TOs, reach an agreement in principal, and only then approach the Parks people. If you can get the cooperation of the TOs, it would add enormous weight to any case you may put up regarding collection of an initial breeding group.

I'm floating this idea without any idea of what has gone on, to date, in the Territory, so shoot me down in flames if I'm being silly...

Jamie.

 

[Kristy_07]

Hello Kirsty

Good point there about experienced keepers.

Why don't you come to the herp conference in Cairns in October? I will be giving a talk there where I will be proposing a new top level rung in the Wildlife Keepers classifications. The new rung would be called Conservation Keepers and these are the type of people who will - in the first instance - be given rare or threatened species of birds, mammals, reptiles, amphibians and fishes by the Parks Authorities, to breed in captivity as an anti-extinction strategy. These Conservation Keepers would be people like Jamie Stuart or John Wiegel or many of our other top people in the reptile world. They will work hand in hand with their state wildlife agency. Once these guys breed up a good number of rare animals they can then on-sell them to experienced Wildlife Keepers and so on - till eventually - there will be so many of these rare animals in captivity that just about anyone who can show ability, can have them, afford them. See Australian Herpetological Sysmposium

Cheers

Slick

Thanks very much for this invitation, Slick. I'll PM you.

Cheers,
Kristy

 

[Elapidae1]

i would still like to hear from goneself the thread creator, he did after all claim to be offered one of these beauties????
i wonder if it was a sham or an illegal animal......

Or just a gee up that turned into a spectacular thread.

I have a small amount of info on M. oenpelliensis in Stephen Swansons book titled, A wild Australia guide SNAKES. It does state that a captive specimen laid ten eggs 116mm by 50 mm it does not say whether they were successfully incubated or not.

 

[Slickturtle]

Thats a very slim snake, for its length Slick. Would you say this is a typical example ?

Hi CR

This one is pretty typical of the others that I have seen. Skinny, lean and long - and the snake is too!

They really show up a meal when they have had one! I wonder if they are designed mainly for a life in the caves (they have big eyes too) picking bats off the ceilings. This species of snake can reach out a very long way without support. Bent wing, Sheath tailed and Ghost Bats would be the perfect size for them. These bats are common enough up here in the stone country. Whoa up a bit - I don't know if they are still common up here? I don't know if John Woinarskis' people have been looking at the sandstone bat populations. There is too much that we don't know!!

Cheers

Slick

 

[Pythoninfinite]

There is a book called "Lost from our landscape- Threatened species of the Northern Territory" edited by John Woinarski et al- an excellent book-

That's the one - a real eye opener!

Jamie.

 

[cockney red]

Hi CR

This one is pretty typical of the others that I have seen. Skinny, lean and long - and the snake is too!

They really show up a meal when they have had one! I wonder if they are designed mainly for a life in the caves (they have big eyes too) picking bats off the ceilings. This species of snake can reach out a very long way without support. Bent wing, Sheath tailed and Ghost Bats would be the perfect size for them. These bats are common enough up here in the stone country. Whoa up a bit - I don't know if they are still common up here? I don't know if John Woinarskis' people have been looking at the sandstone bat populations. There is too much that we don't know!!

Cheers

Slick

Thanx mate :lol:

 

[Southside Morelia]

That is a superb looking animal, it would be devastating to see such a pretty large snake decline or not be studied and not have a captive bred program initiated due to politics and Bureaucracy!! My 2 cents..

I had an experience many years ago as an apprentice electrician and my tradesman wearing the said shorts was up a ladder above me....because these pants ride up after a few wears....i looked up to pass him a tool and his right cag was hanging out in the breeze. from that day on I never wore my short stubbies again...OR followed him up a ladder!!! lol

 

[Waterrat]

Even the two captive and well-fed specimens that Peter Krauss had were long and thin. They wern't the easiest pythons to keep, I remember Peter going into a lot of trouble like daily UV exposure with MV lamp and a lot of fussing around to get them feeding regularly.

 

[Pythoninfinite]

i looked up to pass him a tool

Maybe it wasn't the one he was after?

J.

 

[cockney red]

i looked up to pass him a tool

Maybe it wasn't the one he was after?

J.

Surely a shifter would fit most nuts....

 

[Slickturtle]

Using lights would counteract my idea of this species being a troglodite.

I found these animals to be lackluster about eating too - until I found the right food - and then they were explosive, almost dangerous!!

Cheers

Slick

Even the two captive and well-fed specimens that Peter Krauss had were long and thin. They wern't the easiest pythons to keep, I remember Peter going into a lot of trouble like daily UV exposure with MV lamp and a lot of fussing around to get them feeding regularly.

 

[Waterrat]

Using lights would counteract my idea of this species being a troglodite.

I found these animals to be lackluster about eating too - until I found the right food - and then they were explosive, almost dangerous!!

Cheers


Slick

Something to talk about in Cairns in October - looking forward to it.