Snake starting to shed without milky eyes?

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Thanks again. You are a wealth of knowledge.

It is a hinged enclosure with a hinged wooden door at the top with a lock on it. There is certainly a small gap between it. I will silicon up the cracks in the back and side of the enclosure. I have already blocked off half of the vent at the back, but if you think there would be enough ventilation through the crack at the door on the top of the enclosure I may think about closing that off as well if I can't get the humidity up with the silicon in the cracks.

Didn't even think about getting a black tub for the snake as it would feel more comfortable. Doh! Unfortunately I had already made it before I read your post and had a cream container lying around. I have already put a hole in each end unfortunately, but it is only a tiny bit bigger than the width of the snake so it should feel reasonably safe in there I would hope.

For the rubber I just grabbed a spare piece of speargun rubber I had lying around, sliced a groove halfway into it and pushed it over the plastic around the hole. There is a small gap where I didn't get it perfectly on but there is no way the snake could get any part of his body through it. It is only a 3-5mm difference.

I will endeavour to get onto making a larger surface area water bowl in the next day or two. I have exams at university tomorrow and Wednesday morning so might struggle before then. But I will continue to mist etc. until then to keep the humidity up.

A big thanks from me and Olli the python. Your information has been invaluable Blue.

Regards,

Tom
 
This was such a useful thread, I am going through the same thing with the exact same symptoms on my diamond (also a 1st snake). One worries so much at first, it is a steep learning curve.

Thanks everyone!
 
An update on this that you reminded me to do :) About a week ago went to handle Olli and he was well and truly milky eyed, trust me... you will know when his eyes are milky! Gave him a soak in the bath for about an hour with some moisturiser. A few days later I went to check on him an he had shed around his cage. It was not a clean and easy shed by the looks of it, it did not look like some photos I have seen of them. It was broken into pieces where he had been able to get it off, then others where it was harder etc. He had a couple of spots, particularly on his tail that had not shed properly. I gave him another bath, after which he was completely shed. I have since siliconed up the cracks in the enclosure and it is getting a higher humidity of around 50%. Hopefully next shed he shouldn't have any issues, which will make me happy.

Wow, what a beautiful colour he has when he has freshly shed. I will put some photos up when I have the chance to take a couple. He has fed every time offered, once every 9-10 days.
 
About a week ago went to handle Olli and he was well and truly milky eyed, trust me... you will know when his eyes are milky! Gave him a soak in the bath for about an hour with some moisturiser.

When a snake is in shed cycle, leave it alone until it sheds. Don't soak them, don't put moisturiser on them, just leave them be until they shed. 'Overmanagement' may well be why the animal didn't shed properly in the first place - snakes do not need moisturising potions or anything else to help them shed their skins under normal circumstances. In most cases shedding will be trouble-free within the normal ambient humidity parameters. Bredli in the wild spend much time in trees along watercourses, and likely live in the hollows in those trees. They are exposed to very high heat and low humidity during the summer, and will retreat into cooler shelters when the day heats up. They can cope very well with a range of environmental parameters - they have to. Manage the encolsure environment correctly and you won't need to manage the snake itself.

Snake epidermis is virtually waterproof - it has to be to stop them dehydrating when they go months without water - they don't lose water through their skin, and they don't absorb water through their skin in any significant amounts. Hydration for them is an internal thing. Soaking will help once the shed cycle has been complete but the old skin is adherent, but don't use anything that will leave a coating on the animal afterwards (such as 'moisturiser'), plain luke-warm water is fine.

Jamie
 
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