Wild rats

[KylieClancy]

Has anyone ever bred successfully, a wild rat to a shop rat?

 

[seumas12345]

I wouldnt try it!!! The chances of infections/diseases/mites etc... is not worth the risk.... it would definitely be successful but just pointless

 

[warren63]

Yes and i called him Master Splinter !!

 

[funcouple]

I wouldnt try it!!! The chances of infections/diseases/mites etc... is not worth the risk.... it would definitely be successful but just pointless

totally agree seumus.
kylie if you need rats to breed PM me

 

[mrmikk]

I wouldn't consider it, forget the idea Kylie

 

[Australis]

I wouldnt try it!!! The chances of infections/diseases/mites etc... is not worth the risk.... it would definitely be successful but just pointless

Infections?
While i agree the risks of disease and mites could be an issue, its really no different
to buying live rodents at random from petshops.. i would consider it, if you have a
purposeful reason or think the resulting offspring with be of use...

 

[Radar]

Yep, to a hooded male, the babies had wild type fur where-ever it was black, and domestic type fur where-ever it was another colour. The only 'pet' rat we have ever had was one of these babies, was quite a nice animal.

 

[seumas12345]

Infections?
While i agree the risks of disease and mites could be an issue, its really no different
to buying live rodents at random from petshops.. i would consider it, if you have a
purposeful reason or think the resulting offspring with be of use...

Yes infections... infected cuts, abscesses, respiratory infections leading to pneumonia, skin infections etc.... see the link http://members.madasafish.com/~cj_whitehound/Rats_Nest/Norway_Rats/HealthTips/infections.htm

The point is that there is a much lower chance of getting a diseased rat from a petshop than there is from just catching one straight from the wild... It's just common sense...

All in all, like funcouple has said, buy from a reputable breeder of rats and you'll be having top offspring for your snakes!

 

[Australis]

Yes infections... infected cuts, abscesses, respiratory infections leading to pneumonia, skin infections etc.... see the link http://members.madasafish.com/~cj_whitehound/Rats_Nest/Norway_Rats/HealthTips/infections.htm

The point is that there is a much lower chance of getting a diseased rat from a petshop than there is from just catching one straight from the wild... It's just common sense...

All in all, like funcouple has said, buy from a reputable breeder of rats and you'll be having top offspring for your snakes!

I clicked the link, it didn't have any relevance though? .. i mean all the health concerns you just
listed can also be present in "domestic rats".... and wild rats are probably more healthy and robust.

I'm going to breed some wild mice into my domestic line, see if can get some mice more tolerant
of summer highs

 

[seumas12345]

I clicked the link, it didn't have any relevance though? .. i mean all the health concerns you just
listed can also be present in "domestic rats".... and wild rats are probably more healthy and robust.

I'm going to breed some wild mice into my domestic line, see if can get some mice more tolerant
of summer highs

You are obviously far too lazy to do a bit of research... http://members.madasafish.com/~cj_whitehound/Rats_Nest/Norway_Rats/HealthTips/scare_stories.htm

Enough evidence for you? Hey, let's just hope if you're a breeder that people read this first so they know not to buy from you!

 

[tonk]

ive done that with the mice australis, far too many animals nowadays are inbred and alot weaker than they should be so crossing a wild strain into em i dont see a prob with as long as the mouse itself isnt infected. yrs ago I found a nest of wild "hoppers" and quarantined em till they were old enuf then wormed em out and introduced em to my mouse colony.. result is some of the most robust and healthiest mice ull ever see.. i had petshops ringing me just thru word of mouth chasing my healthy mice... never done it with rats but dont see the prob if the animals healthy..

happy breedin tonks

 

[mcloughlin2]

It wouldn't be a problem providing the wild animal is quarantined and wormed. The risk would be minimal at that and if the animal is quarantined for a period of time then there would be next to no risk of any infections as seamus put it. My mine concern would be mites bit even that is very easily treatable considering the result will be hardier mice/rats.

 

[Nagraj]

It's likely that any wild rat caught would be a Black rat which is a different species to the rats bred for reptile food. Breeding the two together would therefore produce hybrids and we all know what happens if you openly discuss hybrids on APS. :evil:

 

[christo]

It's likely that any wild rat caught would be a Black rat which is a different species to the rats bred for reptile food. Breeding the two together would therefore produce hybrids and we all know what happens if you openly discuss hybrids on APS. :evil:

Not to mention the offspring would be sterile and no good for breeding.

And as for wild brown rats, you're better off keeping your fingers and throat in tact and not trying to handle them.

 

[OdessaStud]

This is the result of an escapee females romp with a wild rat. Absoultely no vigour, small litter size and all died within the first 5 months of life. They did not put on weight even though i fed them the same as the other litters of the same age.I would never plan a mateing of this type and all the escapees since are culled and taken to the tip, just not worth the risk.
http://s93.photobucket.com/albums/l67/odessarodents/?action=view&current=coloredrats010.jpg

 

[JasonL]

It's likely that any wild rat caught would be a Black rat which is a different species to the rats bred for reptile food. Breeding the two together would therefore produce hybrids and we all know what happens if you openly discuss hybrids on APS. :evil:

Ideal food for my Carpondros....

 

[cris]

They would breed with wild rats of the same species(sewer rats). Definately not worth it with the number of good rats around that dont bite, breed and grow well. I once had a rat that wild some rat genes, it was far more violent and the only really vicious rat i have ever kept, a portion of her litters looked exactly like wild rats too. It was a very strong rat and a good breeder though.

 

[dailyskin]

This is the result of an escapee females romp with a wild rat. Absoultely no vigour, small litter size and all died within the first 5 months of life. They did not put on weight even though i fed them the same as the other litters of the same age.I would never plan a mateing of this type and all the escapees since are culled and taken to the tip, just not worth the risk.
http://s93.photobucket.com/albums/l67/odessarodents/?action=view&current=coloredrats010.jpg

Cute baby tho!

I had some crossbred mice many years ago - a wild male bred with 2 of my females (by mistake) and the babies were super cute, no probs. But I wasn't breeding them to feed or anything, and I keep all my mice wormed.

 

[Australis]

You are obviously far too lazy to do a bit of research...

Enough evidence for you? Hey, let's just hope if you're a breeder that people read this first so they know not to buy from you!

1)Yes, im obviously lazy.
2)Again not particularly relevant.
3)Not enough no... maybe info from Australia, and not some bleeding heart rat lovers site.
4)Yes, i breed mice and rats, but im too lazy to sell any.