Incubator of death

[AUSGECKO]

Hey guys,
Yesterday 4 out of 7 hatchies had pipped their eggs. Last night at midnight i checked the incubator and one had left the egg so it was removed to aseperat container and the other 3 still had their heads poked out.
And this is what i found in the incubator this morning at 7am

Now that more have come out i can see that the one that hatched last night and is alive is alot smaller than the dead ones and the live one i found this morning.
Does anyone have any idea what could cause this? or have you had this happen to you?

 

[Kirby]

temps got too high, too high a humidty? i dunno... maybe they just were meant to make it.

sorry this happened.

 

[ad]

Very strange how they left the egg like that, or did you remove them from the egg?
I have had them drown in the egg, die stillborn etc, but never leave the actual egg and die - they havent taken their yolk sak fully either, so they werent ready to leave the egg,
Its horrible to lose them at that stage, poor little guys,

 

[Jason]

very sad mate, thats what happened with my mates blondes! came out, didnt take up the yolk and were dead the next day.

 

[AUSGECKO]

I didn`t remove them from the eggs, they left by them selves. Incubator temp sat at 31.1 all night with no variation and humidity at 100%. Definatly a ***** start to the day!!

 

[moosenoose]

I'm really sorry to hear about that, I hope the little one pulls through for you!

 

[Crazy_Snake08]

mate that's no good, it seems odd that the yolk sac wasn't taken up though.

hope that little dude pulls through alright!

-settle

 

[CodeRed]

I know another keeper that lost a whole clutch of stimmies the same way. They al hatched normally then the next day all dead. I would suspect asphixiation or some other toxin released by possibly bacteria build up in the incubation mix.

 

[AUSGECKO]

Yes it`s very odd, I have 2 out and doing well in their own tubs now and another 3 to hatch, 2 of which have already pipped. Fingers crossed, I`ll keep everyone posted.

 

[AUSGECKO]

I know another keeper that lost a whole clutch of stimmies the same way. They al hatched normally then the next day all dead. I would suspect asphixiation or some other toxin released by possibly bacteria build up in the incubation mix.

A friend of mine also lost a clutch of blonds the same way, came out didnt take it up and died. in this case though he was using the water method and everythng was VERY sterile during incubation, only used boiled water, steralized container etc etc.

 

[CodeRed]

Id move the ones about to hatch into a clean incubation tub, just in case there is something in the old one thats leathal.

 

[JasonL]

It isn't that uncommon for this to happen. There could be a number of factors that contribute to it though, maybe the eggs arn't stong enough to begin with, due to the condition the female was in when she laid the eggs. Geckos eggs can be knocked around by the temperature the female has been kept at before she lays, plays havoc with calcium levels....

 

[whiteyluvsrum]

sad start

 

[Wild~Touch]

Some years ago we lost a whole clutch of spotted pythons. They hatched alive and seemed perfect...but on close inspection (after the deaths.) right in the umbilical slit of the dead pythons were very very small tiny minute maggots..bloody flies, I think the flies are called drosfilia (please correct the spelling)
It sure is heartbreaking Geck82 I feel for you
Cheers
Sandee

 

[woma34]

The eggs would normally hold up better than that and not collapse like they have even at 100% humidity, the egg shell should be relatively dry, they look wet, I think that your vermiculite mix may have been a bit to wet, or may be there was not enough fresh air circulated in the chamber the last time you looked, or may be water droplets got on the eggs from condensation, just a thought.

 

[Nagraj]

Well so far a lot of unsubstantiated theories so I'll throw in another one but which is more probable given the visual clues that nothing looks wrong.

I'm going to say they have a genetic defect due to in-breeding and it's possibly a respiratory system fault which only presents when they are forced to breathe.

 

[AUSGECKO]

The eggs would normally hold up better than that and not collapse like they have even at 100% humidity, the egg shell should be relatively dry, they look wet, I think that your vermiculite mix may have been a bit to wet, or may be there was not enough fresh air circulated in the chamber the last time you looked, or may be water droplets got on the eggs from condensation, just a thought.

Them eggs that are collapsed are the ones that have already hatched out, all the eggs were nice and firm all the way up to hatching except 2 that dimpled slightly. There was plenty of air circulation as i was being impatient and checking them twice a day from when the eggs piped and beforehand i was airing the container once a week ad checking the weight of the tub and topping up with water if needed (only once). Thaks for your input everyone

 

[AUSGECKO]

Well so far a lot of unsubstantiated theories so I'll throw in another one but which is more probable given the visual clues that nothing looks wrong.

I'm going to say they have a genetic defect due to in-breeding and it's possibly a respiratory system fault which only presents when they are forced to breathe.

:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol: I like your enthusiasm! But they are a completely non related pair.

 

[waruikazi]

Well so far a lot of unsubstantiated theories so I'll throw in another one but which is more probable given the visual clues that nothing looks wrong.

I'm going to say they have a genetic defect due to in-breeding and it's possibly a respiratory system fault which only presents when they are forced to breathe.

That was my guess too. Although i wouldn't want to guess on how related the parents were.

 

[AUSGECKO]

That was my guess too. Although i wouldn't want to guess on how related the parents were.

Parents are from different breeders and the male bought as the same local as the female but as they have grown i think i was just told what i wanted to hear If you know what i mean , They are both completely different animals.