bawling my eyes out...
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Wally
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Geez, just want to give him a hug and tell him things will be ok.
chickensnake
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I know exactly the position that kids in, Been in it my whole life...but it does get better. He just has to be stronger than them.
viciousred
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Digitaliss
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It is so good to see that he has the strength in him to share his feelings and carry on.
I am so disappointed to read the nasty horrible comments from some of the people on Youtube. There are just some people that need a good smack with the reality stick followed by the empathy stick.
I am so disappointed to read the nasty horrible comments from some of the people on Youtube. There are just some people that need a good smack with the reality stick followed by the empathy stick.
Sezzzzzzzzz
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probably exactly the same people that are picking on him. Poor kid. as said above, hust makes me want to give him a big hug and tell him it does get better.
Megzz
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Just saw this through a link on Otep's facebook. Heartbreaking.
r3ptilian
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And people wonder why these poor kids kill themselves or even worse go on killing sprees at school. I think what he has done is very brave, and to newtolovingsnake you have a heart of gold.
woody101
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i saw this aswell tonight i wanna give him a hug
Khagan
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Also seen this tonight on another site. Sadly too many people have been/are in this kids position, hopefully this exposure to his video will get him some help in some way so at least 1 person is no longer in this position.
Smithers
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Thanks Sarah,
Maybe some who think we are freaks and what not might see the damage a few words can do to others and change their ways or thoughts.
The problem is when your young you don't have the life skills just yet to deal with the torment and hatred thrown on you and unfortunately the option of ending your life looks pretty inviting most of the time esp when you get depression/anxiety which compounds the problem.
Lived a lie myself till 38 in fear of the exact same thing this kids going through, and that in itself nearly killed me. Ive thought of doing the same and ending it lots but found the strength from somewhere to kick that thought to the curb.
Still to this day in this country we still fight a battle to be equal.
Maybe some who think we are freaks and what not might see the damage a few words can do to others and change their ways or thoughts.
The problem is when your young you don't have the life skills just yet to deal with the torment and hatred thrown on you and unfortunately the option of ending your life looks pretty inviting most of the time esp when you get depression/anxiety which compounds the problem.
Lived a lie myself till 38 in fear of the exact same thing this kids going through, and that in itself nearly killed me. Ive thought of doing the same and ending it lots but found the strength from somewhere to kick that thought to the curb.
Still to this day in this country we still fight a battle to be equal.
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Recharge
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while I feel for this kids, he simply has no idea just how hard life will and can be in the future, he has to find the strength within to overcome his hardships, I spend pretty much my whole school life and youth alone, picked on and segregated, I too have faced the thought of ending it, but, I found it within myself to soldier on.
no one else can give that to you, the reasons for surviving and living are ones own, and little to nothing external can give you real reason.
life is hard, life is pain but life also has many wonders and reasons to live it.
he'll face love and loss throughout his existence if he chooses to continue, and one has to build the inner strength to be able to endure, or one will simply give up and give in.
for all his suffering, has he ever considered what others go through to find the strength to go on? no, all he's though of is his own misery, but that's understandable for the young, with this video, others will find him and his parents will find out and maybe he'll get some help, but unless he finds the strength to help himself, it's a lost cause.
while I have suffered body wide pain and chronic fatigue constantly for the last 8 or so years, still I go on, and still I know it's nothing compared to what some people go through, it's a balancing act, to live and to find good enough reason to endure, one day I'll change my mind, but until then, life is what you make of it.
no one else can give that to you, the reasons for surviving and living are ones own, and little to nothing external can give you real reason.
life is hard, life is pain but life also has many wonders and reasons to live it.
he'll face love and loss throughout his existence if he chooses to continue, and one has to build the inner strength to be able to endure, or one will simply give up and give in.
for all his suffering, has he ever considered what others go through to find the strength to go on? no, all he's though of is his own misery, but that's understandable for the young, with this video, others will find him and his parents will find out and maybe he'll get some help, but unless he finds the strength to help himself, it's a lost cause.
while I have suffered body wide pain and chronic fatigue constantly for the last 8 or so years, still I go on, and still I know it's nothing compared to what some people go through, it's a balancing act, to live and to find good enough reason to endure, one day I'll change my mind, but until then, life is what you make of it.
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Words can do much more damage than people realise, and I think this boy should disable the comments for the video, I had a look at the comments and there were a few there telling him to kill himself. Some people have become pretty sick.
School can be a very difficult place, especially high school. There's a very big difference between grade 6 in primary school and year 7 in high school. It seemed to me like everyone became super bitchy overnight, and then everyone forms their little groups and judges anyone not in their group. I was always different to everyone else, and I wish I had a dollar for every time I was called a freak. I didn't care about fashion like everyone else, so I hated casual dress day because people would stare at me because I wasn't wearing the expensive brand name crap like all the other sheep.
I was quiet at school which led people to believe that I was weak. I remember when I was in year 7 and we were all lined up waiting to go into class, and a girl that didn't like me was talking to her friend about me within earshot. She told her friend that if she came up and pushed me I'd run away and cry. In reality I wouldn't have done that at all, I probably would have pushed her back!
I had a group that I was in, but I only liked one person in it, the other two were people who didn't like me, and one of them was nasty to me through primary school. One day in class while it was quiet and everyone was doing their work, one of the girls said to me "I don't want to break your little heart, but we only hang around with you because we feel sorry for you". Nice. Thankfully it wasn't long before I made another friend and we stuck together for a while before joining up with two other nice girls, one of which I went to primary school with.
People stopped assuming I was weak in year 8 when I finally snapped and couldn't take the abuse anymore. I was sitting in class one day and a girl was being nasty to me, and I got sick of it and swore at her. She recoiled and looked shocked, and then told me not to swear at her. That was the first time I stood up to her. People really started to back off when we were in PE one day and the benches in the gym needed to be moved. I picked one up by myself and moved it over to the wall. Most of the people in my year level saw it and decided not to give me as much of a hard time.
I dealt with a couple of guys in my year level too, one was walking past my friends and I while we were sitting down, and he was throwing rocks at us. After lunch our year level was watching a movie in the drama room, and while we were waiting to go in I approached the guy who threw the rocks and his head "somehow" went into the brick wall. He never threw rocks at us again, and in fact, not long after that he joined our group of friends and turned out to be a nice guy lol.
The other guy I dealt with was in my maths class, and instead of doing his work he was walking up and down the classroom and every time he walked past me he'd say something nasty. I eventually got sick of it, and the next time he did it I grabbed him by the collar and slammed him down on the table on his back and told him in no polite way to leave me alone. Then I threw him off the table and he went and sat down and shut up.
I didn't really fit in with my group of friends either, I wasn't into the same stuff they were and I didn't go out much or do anything so I didn't really have much to talk about. I left school at the end of year 10, and I'm glad I never have to go through any of that again!
I hope the boy in this video can find some good friends who will support him, it will have to be people who are courageous and don't care too much about what others think, and they will be his friend knowing that people will then turn on them also. I hope things get better for this guy.
We don't really know that for sure. I understand what you're saying and appreciate it, but at the same time I've had people say to me sometimes that there are other people who are worse off, but that doesn't change anything. It doesn't make my situation better nor does it make it less painful. Sometimes I feel like people say that to try to stop you from being upset not for your own good, but because they can't handle you being in a difficult place.
School can be a very difficult place, especially high school. There's a very big difference between grade 6 in primary school and year 7 in high school. It seemed to me like everyone became super bitchy overnight, and then everyone forms their little groups and judges anyone not in their group. I was always different to everyone else, and I wish I had a dollar for every time I was called a freak. I didn't care about fashion like everyone else, so I hated casual dress day because people would stare at me because I wasn't wearing the expensive brand name crap like all the other sheep.
I was quiet at school which led people to believe that I was weak. I remember when I was in year 7 and we were all lined up waiting to go into class, and a girl that didn't like me was talking to her friend about me within earshot. She told her friend that if she came up and pushed me I'd run away and cry. In reality I wouldn't have done that at all, I probably would have pushed her back!
I had a group that I was in, but I only liked one person in it, the other two were people who didn't like me, and one of them was nasty to me through primary school. One day in class while it was quiet and everyone was doing their work, one of the girls said to me "I don't want to break your little heart, but we only hang around with you because we feel sorry for you". Nice. Thankfully it wasn't long before I made another friend and we stuck together for a while before joining up with two other nice girls, one of which I went to primary school with.
People stopped assuming I was weak in year 8 when I finally snapped and couldn't take the abuse anymore. I was sitting in class one day and a girl was being nasty to me, and I got sick of it and swore at her. She recoiled and looked shocked, and then told me not to swear at her. That was the first time I stood up to her. People really started to back off when we were in PE one day and the benches in the gym needed to be moved. I picked one up by myself and moved it over to the wall. Most of the people in my year level saw it and decided not to give me as much of a hard time.
I dealt with a couple of guys in my year level too, one was walking past my friends and I while we were sitting down, and he was throwing rocks at us. After lunch our year level was watching a movie in the drama room, and while we were waiting to go in I approached the guy who threw the rocks and his head "somehow" went into the brick wall. He never threw rocks at us again, and in fact, not long after that he joined our group of friends and turned out to be a nice guy lol.
The other guy I dealt with was in my maths class, and instead of doing his work he was walking up and down the classroom and every time he walked past me he'd say something nasty. I eventually got sick of it, and the next time he did it I grabbed him by the collar and slammed him down on the table on his back and told him in no polite way to leave me alone. Then I threw him off the table and he went and sat down and shut up.
I didn't really fit in with my group of friends either, I wasn't into the same stuff they were and I didn't go out much or do anything so I didn't really have much to talk about. I left school at the end of year 10, and I'm glad I never have to go through any of that again!
I hope the boy in this video can find some good friends who will support him, it will have to be people who are courageous and don't care too much about what others think, and they will be his friend knowing that people will then turn on them also. I hope things get better for this guy.
We don't really know that for sure. I understand what you're saying and appreciate it, but at the same time I've had people say to me sometimes that there are other people who are worse off, but that doesn't change anything. It doesn't make my situation better nor does it make it less painful. Sometimes I feel like people say that to try to stop you from being upset not for your own good, but because they can't handle you being in a difficult place.
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Smithers
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@ Recharge,
I agree with everything you said, but when your at that age you don't have the coping mechanisms us adults have and depending on your conditioning and support mechanisms around you checking out can seem like the best option.
Sure the desire to carry on has been strong for you and I but not all have that and combined with depression/anxiety where your not thinking straight and unhealthy thoughts are a constant.
External advice,help and support can give you extra reasons to live and see things differently, and can help with ways of handling situations too. Im not sure it's only an inbuilt thing, look at all the support groups for gambling,drugs,etc etc they are there to help others that are not able to help themselves.
Im sad you had to fight the fight and still till this day one way or another as you say we all do in some way shape or form.
You can understand why so many leave the pain and find a way to get peace. It's very sad we live in a world of hate.
I agree with everything you said, but when your at that age you don't have the coping mechanisms us adults have and depending on your conditioning and support mechanisms around you checking out can seem like the best option.
Sure the desire to carry on has been strong for you and I but not all have that and combined with depression/anxiety where your not thinking straight and unhealthy thoughts are a constant.
External advice,help and support can give you extra reasons to live and see things differently, and can help with ways of handling situations too. Im not sure it's only an inbuilt thing, look at all the support groups for gambling,drugs,etc etc they are there to help others that are not able to help themselves.
Im sad you had to fight the fight and still till this day one way or another as you say we all do in some way shape or form.
You can understand why so many leave the pain and find a way to get peace. It's very sad we live in a world of hate.
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Bluetongue1
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Congratulations! You have managed yet again to post a trivialising comment into a serious issue.
Over the years I have taught hundreds of individuals your age. One thing I can say as a result of that, with absolute certainty, is that your age is in no way any excuse for your comments. I believe you have a choice to make in life... continue your attention seeking behaviour through insensitive and uncaring interactions; or draw desirable attention to yourself by demonstrating sensitivity and caring for others.
The reality Snakeluvver is that it would not really matter if this video was fake. It accurately portrays a problem that is very real and needs to be addressed instead of being swept under the carpet or made light of. Apart from the potential to create high levels of stress and the feelings of hopelessness, which are often fore-runners to depression or a number of other forms of mental illness, bullying can lead to drug taking, alcohol abuse, reckless and lawless behaviour, stifled social development and poor social skills and the list goes on. So even if they don’t commit suicide and keep the self-harm at a lower level, their lives can be permanently screwed up as a result of on-going persistent bullying at school.
I don’t consider this to be trivial. Do you?
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oh I understand perfectly, but I'm also logical enough to understand that with some people (which is terribly sad) that nothing is going to help, and they're going to end it either way (mind you, those people tend not to send a cry for help).
Tahlia, saying some people have it worse is not supposed to make it easier or better for someone to manage their own struggle, at least from me, it's simply to get people to think, period, from as many aspects as possible, just because I found/find strength in knowing this, doesn't mean anyone else should, it's just a reference point to ponder, and pondering leads to potential for breakthrough if it's constructive and not just for self pity.
the mind is the key, to expand thought and consideration for as many things as you possibly can, if you can, then try to find your own reasoning and lesson in them.
this is true for all things in life.
we all need help, we all need support and we all need love to one degree or another, the first being for ourselves.
some people are alive or die simply as a lesson on how not to be or to avoid (being practical and philosophical not from an emotional point of view)
in some ways, some parents are making it too easy for kids, not giving them life experience lessons and constructive conversation, or paying enough attention to their kids lives (especially as teenagers HATE it heh)
they just "want them to be kids" somehow forgetting just how tough it is :/
Tahlia, saying some people have it worse is not supposed to make it easier or better for someone to manage their own struggle, at least from me, it's simply to get people to think, period, from as many aspects as possible, just because I found/find strength in knowing this, doesn't mean anyone else should, it's just a reference point to ponder, and pondering leads to potential for breakthrough if it's constructive and not just for self pity.
the mind is the key, to expand thought and consideration for as many things as you possibly can, if you can, then try to find your own reasoning and lesson in them.
this is true for all things in life.
we all need help, we all need support and we all need love to one degree or another, the first being for ourselves.
some people are alive or die simply as a lesson on how not to be or to avoid (being practical and philosophical not from an emotional point of view)
in some ways, some parents are making it too easy for kids, not giving them life experience lessons and constructive conversation, or paying enough attention to their kids lives (especially as teenagers HATE it heh)
they just "want them to be kids" somehow forgetting just how tough it is :/
moosenoose
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Hopefully his parents know what the hell is going on and get him some help. Trouble is most times parents are either too busy or clueless and the only sign they first see is the one where the kid is hanging from a rope in the garage. He's obviously hurting pretty bad. Hopefully he gets some real support.
waruikazi
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Self harm and suicide are extremely contagious. I don't like seeing videos like this for that reason.
I've seen the body and aftermath of a young man who took his life. It's something i never want to see again and don't want any family to experience again. Talking about suicide and self harm can have a detrimental affect on people.
There are avenues for help, unfortunately they are usually so understaffed that they can't always help, but they are there all the same. If you are reading this thread and feel you need to talk to someone these are some contacts and information that may help you.
Kids Helpline - 1800 55 1800
Find Help - Lifeline | Connect with someone who cares
Suicide: Read This First
I've seen the body and aftermath of a young man who took his life. It's something i never want to see again and don't want any family to experience again. Talking about suicide and self harm can have a detrimental affect on people.
There are avenues for help, unfortunately they are usually so understaffed that they can't always help, but they are there all the same. If you are reading this thread and feel you need to talk to someone these are some contacts and information that may help you.
Kids Helpline - 1800 55 1800
Find Help - Lifeline | Connect with someone who cares
Suicide: Read This First
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