can u breed snakes out of the same hatchling

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i was wondering i have now heard different things i was told and also read about breeding snakes and i havent heard about a problem of breeding a male and a female out of he same hatchling i just posted b4 that i was buying a male for my female to have as a friend and maybe years down the track breed them and i was now told that it can affect it. can ppl please help me here im stuck and confused?????? :rolleyes:
 
thats what i thought and read until someone posts on my last thread that it can cause retardation????? i know that can happen in humans and dogs but snakes are different
 
Its fine to breed siblings together, this is how many morphs/variations etc have occured.
 
Wonder why it seems that every vertebrate i read about has complex social structure and dispersion set up to avoid inbreeding from voles to elephants, ie males in some strategies get ousted from family group or population to avoid in breeding often females stay put and males disperse to avoid in breeding. Plants and trees use the wind or animals to disperse seeds and pollen far and wide, partly i guess to keep gene pool mixed up. Also it has been tested that animals including humans are likely to be less attracted to a mate if related using pheromones and scent tests. I think inbreeding can be potentially bad for anything plant or animal, may sometimes be good in nature for a while. May take many generations or few but likely to end up with problems, ie lots of varieties dogs have been selectively breed and inbreed to be fluffy or aggressive or whatever but often end up with some genetic disorders or disease. Reptiles are not very different from other vertebrates genetically. I think other guy talking about retardation was a simplifying it a bit too much but in nature most life seems to strive to increase genetic diversity by avoiding in breeding for a reason. But the more inbreed humans and dogs are the less intelligent they appear to be, ie compare intelligence of a chihuahua or other silly lap dog to that of its natural self the wolf, or go to Hicksville usa and compare them to city folk for number of fingers and intelligence (joke).

In humans inbreeding has worse consequences as we were almost extinct and all of us descended from a small population so there was a lot of inbreeding a long time ago and we are still suffering from genetic problems due to this and consequences of human inbreeding more pronounced than in snakes. However in reptiles they never had this problem and are more genetically fit than us naked apes so often less genetic problems. But inbreeding isnt good idea genetically and ethically i think. Lineages of very inbreed snakes often have to have some offspring killed and weeded out with recessive genes although less common that some other vertebrates. Probably not going to cause any problems breeding siblings but you decide if you think good idea for yourself after you read about it for yourself, rather than asking a couple of random geezers from some random website.
 
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Inbreeding and line breeding are very useful tools in harnessing and focusing on single traits, whether it be for aesthetic reasons or performance reasons, inbreeding and linebreeding in animals is necessary to achieve desired results on a continual basis in my opinion.
 
That is true red devil, but i am just wondering how ethical it is inbreeding animals for fashion? whether it be dogs that are super small or big and fluffy but have problem with hips or liver etc or reptiles when you get to certain point where you have to cull individuals with abnormalities. Just me being daft thinking about ethics, who cares when u can get pretty coloured animals i guess using useful tools that can be sold for good profit? (/sacrasm off)
 
That is why it is only a useful tool to those that have an understanding of genetics, experience with inbreeding / linebreeding and know when to introduce an "out". (In this instance we are talking about a first off mating between two siblings - The OP is asking will it be safe? The simple answer to this is YES, he is not asking whether it is unethical or not)
Alot of Breeding is for profit, and yes it may be for cosmetic reasons, and it may be for performance reasons, both serve there purpose. Ethics is a whole new thread..
 
Just suggested it in case the op was interested in thinking and that sort of thing.
 
Reptiles are not mammals so making comparisons I dont think are valid..
BTS on Guam comes to mind as a valid example of a population that started as a small pool of animals that didnt seem to have any problems becoming established or having any related health problems as a result as far as I know. How many cane toads were originally released here?

This is just my opinion and I am not interested getting into a debate over it with some random geezer from some random website.
 
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Somewhat related, and a bit interesting!

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