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[ivonavich]

Take it to a vet with Reptile experience and get a autopsy....
But I would have to say that if you are using wild captured prey from a domestic area that there is a strong chance of poisioning....

 

[jvfvj]

Id probably say your on the moeny with the geckoes being poisoned, because the crickets were last fed to him around 2 weeks ago, with a gecko being fed last night and then he was dead this afternoon.

 

[jack]

is it black belly, or is it a black blotch with a greenish tinge on the edge?

 

[daniel1234]

Interesting. Any chance of some pics.
Could it be an exotic sold to the shop as a native? People have done that haven't they?
Maybe it was taught to eat crickets and they got the better of it.
Seems strange that a black spot just appeared on the day it died.
What about the thermostat, if you use one, is it internal, could that have become live?
All just speculation BTW. Hope you get some answers.

 

[Adsell]

A black or greenish area on the belly of a dead reptile is common. It is from the Gallbladder leaking after death i believe.
White or cloudy eyes suggest the snake was going to slough. Why it died, who knows.
As for eating crickets, i have observed young GTS's taking crickets before as well as an adult Yellow Faced Whip.
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[Mayhem]

I dont think it was poisoning or electrocution. As Jack and Adsell are pointing out, the black area can be explained by gall bladder leaking. I cant give you an answer on why sorry, but I can add to the list of people who doubt electrocution or poisoning.

I doubt both of these because electrocution I think you have clearly stated that you've covered this base and you're pretty solid that it isnt that - I believe your pretty confident about that not being the cause.

Poisoning I doubt, because chances are, a gecko that is "poisoned" would have to have consumed such a vast amount of poison so as to kill your snake as well, that it probably would have already died or been in a real bad way long before you caught it and fed it to your healthy snake, which I would assume is something you would notice

Sorry bout the loss, hope you work out what happened.

 

[ihaveherps]

Jack, Adsell, and Mayhem have it.... though it can also be seen in some cases of scepticemia.

 

[NicG]

Hi jvfvj,

Just about everyone I know who has owned Common Tree Snakes has had one or more die for seemingly no reason. I've heard many theories regarding diet, temperature and humidity and am not even close to a conclusion, except to say that these snakes are not as simple to keep as pythons.

If you do get an autopsy, please let me/us know the results.

Sorry for your loss,
Nic

P.S. I wasn't aware that CTS ate crickets. Interesting ...

 

[jack]

yeah, i have lost a couple of common tree snakes that i thought were all good husbandry wise.
one even seemed to have hung itself ...
about ten years ago i came home to a snake limply hanging by its neck from a forked branch in its enclosure!

 

[-Peter]

I have only ever seen one other snake eat an insect. A juvie Mt Gambier copperhead took a small woody. Only did it once and never repeated the trick.
Was this black you mentioned a discolouration or a distinct black mark. If it is a discolouration then I would suggest that the snake probably died of either peritonitis or decomposing food in the gut.

 

[James_Scott]

I know you've cancelled out electrocution, but is it possible for the snake to urinate on any wires. Liquid can get into some small gaps and create a line for current to be conducted.

 

[baxtor]

well i would say that is why it has died then. they dont eat them. i have read through all my reptile books and they state that aust green tree snakes eat repiles, frogs and fish. its not in their diet. and probably a likely cause of why it died. i dont think they are meant to eat them. it probaly did because thats all anyone fed it. but i dare say thats why its dead.

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