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[Ramsayi]

I'd think on a site like this people would be a little nicer. Or how about don't post it, I asked for answers not orders. If you didn't notice I already got the information I needed. Hence why I thanked the kind people who helped.

Hamalicious took time to post some advice,believe it or not,for your and others benefit.For what it is worth what he wrote is valid even if you don't really want to know about it.Keeping young snakes in smallish tubs does help in keeping them feel safe,secure and feeding well.Of course some don't mind going into larger enclosures but a lot do.

 

[Shay-Nik]

Hamalicious took time to post some advice,believe it or not,for your and others benefit.For what it is worth what he wrote is valid even if you don't really want to know about it.Keeping young snakes in smallish tubs does help in keeping them feel safe,secure and feeding well.Of course some don't mind going into larger enclosures but a lot do.

As I said. I had already thanked the kind people who have answered what I asked. Thats that.

 

[Hamalicious]

Thank you Ramsayi.

I didn't mean for my response to be taken badly, so i apologise if the way i said it, made it sound like anything other than me trying to help.

 

[Shay-Nik]

Thank you Ramsayi.

I didn't mean for my response to be taken badly, so i apologise if the way i said it, made it sound like anything other than me trying to help.

Apologies accepted. I just don't like the way most people talk on this forum.

 

[Hamalicious]

Apologies accepted. I just don't like the way most people talk on this forum.

Welcome to the forums then, you'll get used to it after a while. Try not to get offended so easily, it'll make your time here much better.

 

[Shay-Nik]

Welcome to the forums then, you'll get used to it after a while. Try not to get offended so easily, it'll make your time here much better.

I have another question, but about a different snake we have, a jungle python has just shed and we were helping to get the rest of it off cause he couldn't and he started drooling a lot, I assume he was nearly ready to regurgitate as he ate 1 day prior but most of the lump in his belly had already disappeared, after he started drooling we put him back into his enclosure, should we look into a vet trip? We do have a vet close by, he was not foaming at the mouth, it was kind of like a dog drooling when its looking at food, it was just long and stringy.


The snake I had mentioned earlier, the ablino darwin. He was just in shed and I had no clue of it because of the colour of him s:

 

[Pitttownboy]

I keep all my hatchies in small slide in slide out tubs until they don't fit in them then I enlarge the container, snakes don't need exercise so if your not keeping them in a display tank I've found they stay happier and healthier in small( not to small) easy to clean plastic tubs

 

[Tobe404]

It could be a number of things... Ambient temps, type of food, the move/change in environment.
Different Snakes will react different to everything. As the examples below explain:

My Pythons still fed after a 900k or so move...
Yet since I've moved the bigger MD and Jungle out into the shed and it's Winter. They've stopped eating.
Bigger MD was starting to go off food even when she was inside, so I don't think the move had anything to do with it.
Jungle did take a Weaner Rat after the move. Down the cool end of the enclosure. But lately wont take anything.
Still regulates his/her body temperature, so I'm not sure if it's to do with the move or that Winter is well and truly here.

Smaller MD that is still inside (and even after putting him in a slightly bigger enclosure) is eating fine.
Little MD hasn't touched Rats since December. Will smash down Quails and Chicks fine.
Have tried everything to get him back onto Rats but it just isn't happening.

My new Coastals are eating fine for the most part.
Got them at the end of June and offered food up about a week later.
They have a heat mat and light. Heat mat is on the whole time but the light is only on from 8am to 4pm.
Temperature can still drop to 20 at night. Is around 30 - 33 during the day.
Obviously the move nor Winter is having an impact on them.

 

[Shay-Nik]

It could be a number of things... Ambient temps, type of food, the move/change in environment.
Different Snakes will react different to everything. As the examples below explain:

My Pythons still fed after a 900k or so move...
Yet since I've moved the bigger MD and Jungle out into the shed and it's Winter. They've stopped eating.
Bigger MD was starting to go off food even when she was inside, so I don't think the move had anything to do with it.
Jungle did take a Weaner Rat after the move. Down the cool end of the enclosure. But lately wont take anything.
Still regulates his/her body temperature, so I'm not sure if it's to do with the move or that Winter is well and truly here.

Smaller MD that is still inside (and even after putting him in a slightly bigger enclosure) is eating fine.
Little MD hasn't touched Rats since December. Will smash down Quails and Chicks fine.
Have tried everything to get him back onto Rats but it just isn't happening.

My new Coastals are eating fine for the most part.
Got them at the end of June and offered food up about a week later.
They have a heat mat and light. Heat mat is on the whole time but the light is only on from 8am to 4pm.
Temperature can still drop to 20 at night. Is around 30 - 33 during the day.
Obviously the move nor Winter is having an impact on them.

Are the snakes being handled while they are like this? Correct me if im wrong. But maybe they could be stressed due to being handled, have you tried braining the food before giving it to them, its a hit with my sisters snake, he loves it.


As for the problem I posted earlier we think he may have been regurgitating water

 

[Tobe404]

Are the snakes being handled while they are like this? Correct me if im wrong. But maybe they could be stressed due to being handled, have you tried braining the food before giving it to them, its a hit with my sisters snake, he loves it.

Are you referring to the smaller MD who wont touch Rats anymore or the Jungle and bigger MD that have gone off their food?

As I already mentioned I've tried every trick in the book to get him back onto Rats. Nothing seems to work.
Braining/Gutting/Dipping in egg yolk, tuna can, chicken stock/Putting pieces and feathers of the Chick or Quail into and onto the Rat.
I've thawed the Chick/Quail out in the same hot water as the Rat. When I offer the Rat up he shows interest but when he gets close ends up turning away. As soon as the Chick or Quail is offered up there is no hesitation.

As for the bigger MD and Jungle I honestly think it's just that Winter has really set in. MD started going off her food even before the move into the shed. Jungle had one Rat a couple of nights after being moved (end of June) but hasn't wanted anything since (on the odd occasion I have offered food).

I have never had to modify their food in any way for them to want to take it. So I don't think that would make a difference. I could always give a try I guess. But really I don't mind that they've gone off their food for a while. They are big for their age(s).

Since moving them into the shed I actually handle them less than I used to. Only really handle these days when I'm cleaning their enclosures or changing their water, None of them seem stressed. I only handle the Coastals when I have to separate them for feeding..

 

[Shay-Nik]

Are you referring to the smaller MD who wont touch Rats anymore or the Jungle and bigger MD that have gone off their food?

As I already mentioned I've tried every trick in the book to get him back onto Rats. Nothing seems to work.
Braining/Gutting/Dipping in egg yolk, tuna can, chicken stock/Putting pieces and feathers of the Chick or Quail into and onto the Rat.
I've thawed the Chick/Quail out in the same hot water as the Rat. When I offer the Rat up he shows interest but when he gets close ends up turning away. As soon as the Chick or Quail is offered up there is no hesitation.

As for the bigger MD and Jungle I honestly think it's just that Winter has really set in. MD started going off her food even before the move into the shed. Jungle had one Rat a couple of nights after being moved (end of June) but hasn't wanted anything since (on the odd occasion I have offered food).

I have never had to modify their food in any way for them to want to take it. So I don't think that would make a difference. I could always give a try I guess. But really I don't mind that they've gone off their food for a while. They are big for their age(s).

Since moving them into the shed I actually handle them less than I used to. Only really handle these days when I'm cleaning their enclosures or changing their water, None of them seem stressed. I only handle the Coastals when I have to separate them for feeding..

This may be a gross suggetion but have you tried soaking the rat in the quail/chicken guts, if you haven't tried that yet?

 

[Paintedpythons]

Give a quail leg cigar a go ... Bit messy but it works if the like the taist of quail ... Just remove leg open up rats mouth .. I use a nail and push the leg knee first into the rat so the thigh is sticking out of the mouth just a bit ... Worked wonders for my jag that got over RI ... Hope that works .

 

[Tobe404]

After tonight I think I may as well give up trying to get him back onto Rats...
Snapped the chicks neck off and soaked the Rat in hot water/the remains of the Chick.
Offered the Rat up soaked in the Chicks blood/bits excreted from the body. No response.
Offered the Rat up with the Chicks head in the Rats guts. Nothing.
Offered the Chicks body up minus it's head. Bam.

 

[Hamalicious]

That's not a good idea, when he is an adult you'll be feeding him 10 adult mice every feed. I think you're trying wayyyy too hard, just stop feeding him, when he is hungry enough he'll take anything

 

[Tobe404]

That's not a good idea, when he is an adult you'll be feeding him 10 adult mice every feed. I think you're trying wayyyy too hard, just stop feeding him, when he is hungry enough he'll take anything

He hardly shows interest in Mice either... It's only ever Chicken/Quail.
He's spent about 1/3 of his life off food (long story) as it is, so I'm going to feed him whatever he will take.
It's just a bit annoying that Rats aren't on the menu anymore.

 

[Hamalicious]

He hardly shows interest in Mice either... It's only ever Chicken/Quail.
He's spent about 1/3 of his life off food (long story) as it is, so I'm going to feed him whatever he will take.
It's just a bit annoying that Rats aren't on the menu anymore.

Ah okay well that's not so bad, at least chicken and quail come in larger sizes than mice. I've had fussy eaters before, such a pain but sometimes you just have to do whatever you can. Good luck with him