UVB wattage for Ackies monitor

[kankryb]

I didn't say I haven't tried UV light in 45 years, of course I did a comparison some 10-12 years ago, I kept one eastern female with UV(solar raptor) and one eastern female without, from same litter, I did that for 4 years and my experience was that they grew the same, they looked equal in color, both gave babies at age 3 and 4 and no big difference in litter size, so from that I decided to keep doing what I had been doing for 30 years back then and still do now
The species I keep and that breeds are Tiliqua s intermedia T s scincoides T nigrolutea, alpines, T rugosa rugosa exotics are
Shinisaurus crocodilurus Geoemyda spengleri Mniarogekko chahoua Trachylepis dichroma

 

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kankryb

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I have bred for the last 45 years and still breed loads of bluetongue skinks overhere and have never used UV lights, I also breed pinktongues and what you call exotics and don't use UV for anything. [ENQUOTE]


Hi, kankryb:
My final response to you regarding offering UVB to Varanids and also at least one Agamid which is why i put links up regarding the use of supplemenratry D3..
You most certainly DID state your skinks have NEVER been offered UVB exposiure. If you truly want to help those less experienced and knowledgeable, make sure not to contradict yourself, because doing that just adds even more to the mountain of confusion and misinformation "out there".
I seriously wish you and your animals all the very best..

 

[Sdaji]

I didn't say I haven't tried UV light in 45 years, of course I did a comparison some 10-12 years ago, I kept one eastern female with UV(solar raptor) and one eastern female without, from same litter, I did that for 4 years and my experience was that they grew the same, they looked equal in color, both gave babies at age 3 and 4 and no big difference in litter size, so from that I decided to keep doing what I had been doing for 30 years back then and still do now
The species I keep and that breeds are Tiliqua s intermedia T s scincoides T nigrolutea, alpines, T rugosa rugosa exotics are
Shinisaurus crocodilurus Geoemyda spengleri Mniarogekko chahoua Trachylepis dichroma

Long ago as a young fella I had a lot of trouble keeping Tiliqua healthy. I inevitably ended up with MBD issues with adults, and these issues developed quite quickly in the young ones I grew up. I experimented with UV and it did absolutely nothing, but once I started using supplements I never had another issue with them, and UV made no difference with or without supplements (without supplements, they pretty much all had issues, with supplements none of them did, and UV did nothing at any stage).

I was mostly working with them between the early to mid 1990s and around 2006, haven't personally had much to do with Tiliqua since then, although I've seen very similar things in friends' collections since then, in multiple countries. In Asia I know plenty of people keeping Tiliqua (mostly the PNG ones, but some keep others) with zero UV and they absolutely thrive. There are some well-known Tiliqua breeders in the USA breeding large numbers of a wide variety of Tiliqua with no UV.

I spent a fair few years keeping small skinks until well after I stopped working with Tiliqua, they show issues very quickly (not surprising since they're small and have rapid growth, short life cycles etc) but again, supplements completely prevent any issues from developing and UV has never done anything.

 

[Herpetology]

Sdaji has more experience than a large majority of the herp keeping community, and you refuse to take his advice/knowledge/reality checks because he won’t send pictures, but if you look through his earliest posts you can see every thing he has said is evident

 

[Bluetongue1]

My "basic statement" is that "we" don`t actually breed these animals, they do it themselves.

I understood this is what you were saying. I will keep my response simple and to the point this time…

According to the Collins English Dictionary: “Breeders are people who breed animals or plants”; and “Bred is the past tense of the verb breed”. Other English language dictionaries all provide similar definitions.

My point is that kankryb’s statement “I have bred…” is correct use of the English language. If you disagree with this, then argue the toss with the people who write dictionaries.

 

[Sdaji]

I understood this is what you were saying. I will keep my response simple and to the point this time…

According to the Collins English Dictionary: “Breeders are people who breed animals or plants”; and “Bred is the past tense of the verb breed”. Other English language dictionaries all provide similar definitions.

My point is that kankryb’s statement “I have bred…” is correct use of the English language. If you disagree with this, then argue the toss with the people who write dictionaries.

I 100% agree with you. It's funny how difficult it is for people to follow dictionary definitions of words and insist that their own imaged definitions should trump actual definitions.