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Definately!^ I was on facebook for one day! Then I had people (women) asking.... "who is such and such??! Where do you know her from??!!" :oops: Wow, talk about having to think fast! (and remember what I had said) :shock:

So I got off there real quick, I'll give you the drum! All those social sites that add your entire contact list.... and send messages to everyone saying "Ratbag wants to chat to you on .... whatever social media" even to ex's.... people who I hate thier guts.... people I dont remember who they are!.... Pfft... PASS :rolleyes:

Then the garbage people have on facebook.... "Geez, I just popped a huge zit on my nose! shoulda seen the crud on the mirror?" or " just had a poop" or "my nose is itchy" pfft.......
 
I just really can't be bothered, and I'm sure I've had a rant about how awful facebook is at some point, so:

*Insert long-winded anti-facebook rant that attributes crumbling societal values almost entirely to popular social media here*

:D:D:D
 
I know.... lets argue about global warming

I reckon its just a natural cycle from ice ages to warm ages.... hehehehehe

We humans are giving it a hand along, but one decent volcano going off (no humans involved) can cause more global warming than humans can? Bush fires can cause it (smoke/haze) Its just another way for gubiments to get more cash out of us!
 
I know.... lets argue about global warming

I reckon its just a natural cycle from ice ages to warm ages.... hehehehehe

We humans are giving it a hand along, but one decent volcano going off (no humans involved) can cause more global warming than humans can? Bush fires can cause it (smoke/haze) Its just another way for gubiments to get more cash out of us!

You're so 2000s... Global warming was last decade.... Climate change.... Climate change CRB!

There's a good reason why it's climate change and not global warming... The reason being - now the world doesn't actually have to get 'warmer' it could in-fact, due to (let's say water evaporation) cause a cooling effect....

But I don't care either way... I'm going to let my kids kids deal with it!
 
Regardless of legality, cost, etc., is it ethical to drop live food into your snake enclosure?
 
Regardless of legality, cost, etc., is it ethical to drop live food into your snake enclosure?
I will give my 2 cents.Well I think its cruel to the prey animal, yes its natural for snakes,but its unnessecery for a captive(pet) snake to kill its own food.also,if the snake isn't interested the rodents can and will damage the snake if they can and most responsible keepers wouldn't risk injuries to their animals,vet bills are expensive. and if your interest is just monetary the animal is less valuable with blemishes.
 
I did it many years ago when I didnt know I had to have a license to keep reptiles(snakes)..... But these were wild caught and were used to having live prey, I didnt enjoy it I actually hated it so I used to get my first husband to kill them(dont ask how) So now in the present I wouldnt dream of doing it unless it was the last course of action to get my snake to eat. It is purely selfish reasons for me. I hate watching the death of the mouse/rat by the snake, I would hate for my snake to get injured....
 
In the wild snakes have the element of suprise and therefore prolly less exposed to potential injury. Cornered rats can be pretty volatile... I wouldnt like to feed live rats unless last resort so my snakes dont get any injury.

So, I dont think it is unethical.... just risky. after all, if you ask the rat whether he would rather be gassed, smashed, his neck snapped.... or take his chances with the snake.... I bet the rat would choose to take on the snake. (mine wouldnt, they would ask whats to eat) hehehehehe
 
In the wild snakes have the element of suprise and therefore prolly less exposed to potential injury. Cornered rats can be pretty volatile... I wouldnt like to feed live rats unless last resort so my snakes dont get any injury.

So, I dont think it is unethical.... just risky. after all, if you ask the rat whether he would rather be gassed, smashed, his neck snapped.... or take his chances with the snake.... I bet the rat would choose to take on the snake. (mine wouldnt, they would ask whats to eat) hehehehehe

A famous quote from APS in the 80s... No wait... It was 2009... But it felt like the 80s...

(Not sure I can quote it word for word though)

"In the wild snakes get hit by cars. I'm not about to drive my car through my snake enclosure" (ollie, are you still around? changed name?)

One theory I have come up with (as far as live prey is concerned) is something you also brought up here... The chance to survive.

I think the way we kill our very own meals by stunning them then the bolt through the brain is far more cruel... Why? Because you took away the last right for that animal to fight for its life! It doesn't matter it wasn't going to win - the chance to fight for the life is all that matters...

So, gassing rats in my humble opinion is as cruel... Smashing them, cracking their neck etc - fair chance...

Maybe you'll slip... Miss... Their tail might break off... They can scamper... run free... fight... It's unfair (with your size advantage) but it's far more fair than sending them to a nazi concentration camp and gassing!
 
A famous quote from APS in the 80s... No wait... It was 2009... But it felt like the 80s...

(Not sure I can quote it word for word though)

"In the wild snakes get hit by cars. I'm not about to drive my car through my snake enclosure" (ollie, are you still around? changed name?)

One theory I have come up with (as far as live prey is concerned) is something you also brought up here... The chance to survive.

I think the way we kill our very own meals by stunning them then the bolt through the brain is far more cruel... Why? Because you took away the last right for that animal to fight for its life! It doesn't matter it wasn't going to win - the chance to fight for the life is all that matters...

So, gassing rats in my humble opinion is as cruel... Smashing them, cracking their neck etc - fair chance...

Maybe you'll slip... Miss... Their tail might break off... They can scamper... run free... fight... It's unfair (with your size advantage) but it's far more fair than sending them to a nazi concentration camp and gassing!


lol the landlord might not like me driving through his house here......

your pretty right a split second crack over a bar would be more humane than slowly suffocating(or falling asleep peacefully as some would say)
 
One of the reasons I actually stuck with APS since leaving Australia was because I actually LOVE the arguing here...

There's some really strong minded people out there and I totally respect their opinion (even if it is completely wrong).

Anyway - not through a lack of trying, I'd like to see a few more good arguments out there....

Clearly we've finished with god and noah's ark....

Homosexuality is a no go...

The hybrid argument is just plain boring now....

So... I say... I'm going to pick a fight...

Just putting it out there... That's all... But to all you people that put your cups and glasses upside down in your pantry or cupboards, you're WRONG!

Put them in the right way up!

how about instead of everyone arguing on APS, everyone try to help each other and be nice to each other for a change??
that would be so different and really a good thing :D
 
how about instead of everyone arguing on APS, everyone try to help each other and be nice to each other for a change??
that would be so different and really a good thing :D

Let's face it Colin that's never going to happen. One can only hope! :)


And cups up? Are you crazy what about the dust. Do you wash your glasses before use? Maybe if you have 1 glass that's fine me personally I just drink from the bottle. Much more friendly! :)


Cheers Brenton
 
how about instead of everyone arguing on APS, everyone try to help each other and be nice to each other for a change??
that would be so different and really a good thing :D

We all get along just fine - look at this thread for instance... Even though it's targeted at arguing - no one here has been infracted (yet)... Have they? not yet but I haven't bothered to look through it.. threads like this are why people say APS has gone downhill

We are just one big happy (argumentative) family! yeah right
 
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Great thread, I'm having lots of laughs :)

Sorry to be so slow, but being a nerd, and perverted, I had to respond to this one.

My husband gives me the authority to say they exist!!! i have proven it hundreds of thousands of times!!!

You're 32 years old. Assuming you had your first at 12 and have been at it every single day since then, and by 'hundreds of thousands' you mean only 200,000, that's an *average* of about 30 per day for 20 solid years. Unrealistic? Nah, women never exaggerate!

Nice job :)
 
Great You're 32 years old. Assuming you had your first at 12 and have been at it every single day since then, and by 'hundreds of thousands' you mean only 200,000, that's an *average* of about 30 per day for 20 solid years. Unrealistic? Nah, women never exaggerate!

Nice job :)
... I cannot believe you actually did the math!
 
... I cannot believe you actually did the math!

It took less time than it took you to make that post. 20*365 is about 7,000. 200,000/7000 is about 30. Just ballpark estimates, which is all that's relevant since we're making assumptions about when she started and what "hundreds of thousands" meant. Realistically, she probably started later, and "hundreds of thousands" usually means more than 200,000, so we could assume it was actually more like 200-500 per day, with thousands on some days (allowing for days off or slow days when sick etc.). Of course, I'm not throwing in the realistic 'she is full of $#!T 'cause she is female' allowance, which probably means she has still not had her first. In fact, the 'female orgasm is a myth' crowd should probably use her post as evidence.

My favourite trivial argument is about dim sims. Is the stuff on the outside pasta or pastry?
 
It took less time than it took you to make that post. 20*365 is about 7,000. 200,000/7000 is about 30. Just ballpark estimates, which is all that's relevant since we're making assumptions about when she started and what "hundreds of thousands" meant. Realistically, she probably started later, and "hundreds of thousands" usually means more than 200,000, so we could assume it was actually more like 200-500 per day, with thousands on some days (allowing for days off or slow days when sick etc.). Of course, I'm not throwing in the realistic 'she is full of $#!T 'cause she is female' allowance, which probably means she has still not had her first. In fact, the 'female orgasm is a myth' crowd should probably use her post as evidence.

My favourite trivial argument is about dim sims. Is the stuff on the outside pasta or pastry?
Wow... just... wow.

And its pasta.
 
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