What do you think?

[krusty]

if pepole want to take this persons word for it then thats there bad luck.
keep on selling mate.

 

[shamous1]

Broken enclosures, photos, your right he's wrong. How on earth did it get to jelly wrestling? Great turning point though.

 

[jkrakka]

what is the guys name and is he a member of this site

 

[falconboy]

Bloomin hell guys - Auzlizardking - I really don't think spilota_variegata really cares about the light fittings or ultra thin backing at this stage - he just wants the size he paid for. Do the right thing - send him the correct enclosures and I am confident he will send the old ones back (won't you spilota_variegata???)

Afterall, it does look to me like the main issue is being the wrong size. Ultimately, spilota_variegata isn't happy with the build quality either but sounds willing to accept the right size enclosures (spilota_variegata maybe you can do a few changes yourself to make them suitable (or sell them to me for a 1/4 price for cheap blue tongue enclosures )

Be a man, do the right thing and settle this the right way.

Best of luck to both of you.

 

[Ramsayi]

David replied in one of those pasted emails (way back on page 4) that " I have no psychological problems" yet as far as I can see there was never any mention of psyschological problems in any of the earlier emails pasted here.That would suggest to me that someone is being manipulative.

 

[Hornet_7]

This is better than Home and Away. What I dont understand is Why should David have to cover the cost of sending back products that have been made incorrectly? What I could see in the emails (the parts not edited) showed more frustration than anything else IMO.

 

[moose]

Im New around here, so anything i say is only going to be taken with a grain of salt.

Here it is -
1- Wrong Enclosures The main issues obviously
2- Someone is obviously not telling the truth
3-There was an offer made to resolve the issue, where all parties win

So get to it, Solve the issue so we can get to the jelly Wrestling!

Good Luck!

p.s. , Until this issue is resolved i do not think many people will want to trade with you on Ebay Auzlizardking ,knowing about this Unresolved History.

 

[mangoman]

OK I think whats needed here is a leap of faith on both sides!

I believe if spilota_variegata sent back the enclosers to
Auzlizardking, Auzlizardking would send him the correct size enclosers
back and probably in better nick too "light fittings etc"

I believe Auzlizardking probably did have supply problems and that there
was confusion over the size.

I also believe that spilota_variegata is and was very frustrated and may of said
a few things that perhaps were a little nasty, mainly out of fear of being ripped off.

I think Auzlizardking should quickly make some more enclosers of the correct size and when they are ready to send, email spilota_variegata and tell him to send the old enclosers back.

when the old enclosers arrive back to Auzlizardking he can then send off the new enclosers to spilota_variegata.

I do believe however that because there has been a little hurt on both sides, I think both parties should pay postage spilota_variegata pay the postage to send the old ones back and Auzlizardking to send the new enclosers to spilota_variegata..


soz for butting in =D

my 5c
mangoman

 

[shamous1]

?

David replied in one of those pasted emails (way back on page 4) that " I have no psychological problems" yet as far as I can see there was never any mention of psyschological problems in any of the earlier emails pasted here.That would suggest to me that someone is being manipulative.

There were also telephone conversations! How do you cut and paste one of those?
Anything that we have not heard straight from the horses mouth (so to speak) is here say. 50/50 postage and they both return the products. If they do not trust each other then maybe a thrid party could be involved, where as soon as one lot of enclosures is in the hands of couriers then the other one is also placed in the hands of couriers.

 

[Lucas]

Be a man, do the right thing and settle this the right way.

It has nothing to do with "Being a man", it is about being honest and running a business with standards.

I can see both sides of the picture, even though I'm sure there is a whole lot being left out by both sides. It sounds very heated by both parties here.

Therefore, the only resolution I can see is for you both to meet behind the bike sheds at 3:15.

1. No hair pulling.
2. No biting.
3. No scratching.
4. If it goes to ground stop and get back up.
5. No jumping in.
6. No kicking in the balls.
7. No eye gouging.

Or just maybe, you could both stop this petty crap and sort it out.

Decide on a realistic return freight return time, Spilota, send the wrong enclosures back and Aussielizardking can send you the correct ones or refund your money.

It is so unbelievably simple. It doesn't warrant 88 posts of name calling and attempting to destroy reputations.

Are we adults or school children here?

 

[TrueBlue]

IMO the correct sized enclosures need to be supplied, the seller has admitted he made a mistake over the size, the right thing to do for anyone in bussiness is to supply what was ordered in the first place.
mangoman has the idea,the seller should make them and when they are made- do a swap.

 

[Lucas]

This really has gone beyond what it should have

 

[shamous1]

Yes

This really has gone beyond what it should have

Lucas, "You receive the quote of the year award".

 

[Lucas]

It has nothing to do with "Being a man", it is about being honest and running a business with standards.

I can see both sides of the picture, even though I'm sure there is a whole lot being left out by both sides. It sounds very heated by both parties here.

Therefore, the only resolution I can see is for you both to meet behind the bike sheds at 3:15.

1. No hair pulling.
2. No biting.
3. No scratching.
4. If it goes to ground stop and get back up.
5. No jumping in.
6. No kicking in the balls.
7. No eye gouging.

Or just maybe, you could both stop this petty crap and sort it out.

Decide on a realistic return freight return time, Spilota, send the wrong enclosures back and Aussielizardking can send you the correct ones or refund your money.

It is so unbelievably simple. It doesn't warrant 88 posts of name calling and attempting to destroy reputations.

Are we adults or school children here?

I still stand by this

 

[spilota_variegata]

David replied in one of those pasted emails (way back on page 4) that " I have no psychological problems" yet as far as I can see there was never any mention of psyschological problems in any of the earlier emails pasted here.That would suggest to me that someone is being manipulative.

I hate to do this as I said my last post would be my last, but I had to reply to Ramsayi. I've cut and paste this from my last correspondense with Mr. P.

I have never claimed to be a saint and yes there is a tone of aggression in my correspondense in my email. There had been several heated phone calls prior to this email. Mr. P. had point refused to exchange the enclosures during these telcons and stated the damage was my fault. The only time he offered to send them back was after I told him I would report him to the taxation office for not reporting his income. Yes I did say this, I'm man enough to admit that.

This will be my last post to this forum, unless it to respond to Mr. P. telling me my enclosures are being built and being sent. I suggested an amicable compromise, one that could be followed and scrutinised by forum participants. Please note, I have not tried to hide the "threats" made by myself.


David,

Your email is crossing the line of harrassment and is threatening harm, which I should point out is illegal.Your ranting is clearly indicative of some psychopathological illness. If there are any broken parts I am well aware you broke them yourself. I have many very happy and loyal customers all over Australia who will testify to my good nature and fair dealings. I will be taking a copy of your threatening email to the police - I will not tolerate this kind of nonsense I can assure you. Get some help.

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From: "XXXX and David" (my partners name xxx'd out)Reply-To: "XXXX and David" <XXXXX>
To: "Darryn " <XXXXX>
CC: <XXXXX>, <XXXXX>
Subject: Re: freight cost query
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2006 21:43:35 +0930


Darryn,

You have a real nerve. After making me wait for almost 2 months for my enclosures, you send me 3 that are only 90x45x45cm. I specifically asked for 90x60x60cm enclosures and you agreed to make and send me enclosures that size. Also, the light fittings you sent were all smashed due to poor packing and the backing was so thin that the electrical cable had torn through 2 of them. You have ripped me off and unless you rectify this problem I will ensure you do not trade again. The enclosures you sent had a total volume of 182.25 cubic metres. 90x60x60cm enclosures have a total volume of 324 cubic metres. This means you sold me nearly half of what I paid for as well as being unsuitable for snakes. You cannot use 1 mm ply for a backing for a enclosure, my big python could easily push its way through it.

Please respond to this email with a suitable resolution. If you do not, I ensure you, I will prevent you from selling anything on the internet again. You will not be able to get me for defamation as this can only be done if I lie about you. I will be totally honest and provide photographic evidence of my reportings. Do not underestimate me.

I have pasted the correspondence between us about the size of the enclosures.

I will send this email to three of your email addresses to make sure you get it.

Regards,

David XXXXXXX (surname xxx'd out)