Hybrids good or bad?

Hoplophile · Dec 18, 2011

Can't wait till my current hybrids hatch - cross between a blind snake (R.proximus and a death adder (A.wellsi) . I'm selecting for small mouthed individuals (so I can't be bitten - better than venomoid!) with enlarged tail spines. Trouble is my last batch all required ant eggs to start. Later they started caudal luring small mice but couldn't swallow them. Unfortunately my giant Bandy Bandy (Vermicella x Morelia cross) got out and ate them all. Back to the drawing board. Looking to cross a freshwater snake (Amphiesma) with a seasnake (Laticauda) - hoping to get some banded brackish snakes. Keep watching this thread!

ricky_91 · Dec 18, 2011

my friend works for the epa apparently there trying to make it illegal i think they look amazing tho

Retic · Dec 18, 2011

It is already illegal in Queensland.

ricky_91 said:
my friend works for the epa apparently there trying to make it illegal i think they look amazing tho

Hoplophile · Dec 18, 2011

boa said:
It is already illegal in Queensland.

...And Victoria

Jeffa · Dec 18, 2011

boa said:
It is already illegal in Queensland.

But where does the legality lie.
Morelia spilota spilota x morelia bredli: Legal?
Morelia spilota spilota x morelia mcdowlei: Legal?
Most of DERM would not know a python from a tree snake.
Do they inforce it?
Do not get me wrong as I am against cross breeds and I have a hard time trying to determine sub species and species, morphs etc.
Help please

KREPS2011 · Dec 18, 2011

Is it legal in nsw or illegal??

morelia-mental · Dec 19, 2011

shell477 said:
Any pic updates on this stunning fellow??

They are all doing really well, still no neuro issues and eating like pigs

Still no signs of colour change

Will pop back with an update every now and again

Thanks Mm

Retic · Dec 19, 2011

Jeffa said:
But where does the legality lie.
Morelia spilota spilota x morelia bredli: Legal? NO
Morelia spilota spilota x morelia mcdowlei: Legal? NO
Most of DERM would not know a python from a tree snake. CORRECT
Do they inforce it? NO
Do not get me wrong as I am against cross breeds and I have a hard time trying to determine sub species and species, morphs etc.
Help please

.....

Beautiful snakes, chances are they wont show any effects at all or minimal anyway. One of the great misconceptions is that anything with the Jag gene spends it's life corkscrewing and twitching.

morelia-mental said:
They are all doing really well, still no neuro issues and eating like pigs

Still no signs of colour change

Will pop back with an update every now and again

Thanks Mm

JackJ · Feb 2, 2012

Hi mate, how are they looking now? Any changes? Very interesting...

morelia-mental said:
They are all doing really well, still no neuro issues and eating like pigs

Still no signs of colour change

Will pop back with an update every now and again

Thanks Mm

Wookie · Feb 2, 2012

morelia-mental said:
Hi,

I have recently produced a clutch of hybrid gtp's x jaguar carpet Carpondro's, whats everyone's view on this?

One of the hatchlings

So its a jagpondro not a carpondro?

BigWillieStyles · Feb 3, 2012

But where does the legality lie.
Morelia spilota spilota x morelia bredli: Legal?
Morelia spilota spilota x morelia mcdowlei: Legal?
Most of DERM would not know a python from a tree snake.
Do they inforce it?
Do not get me wrong as I am against cross breeds and I have a hard time trying to determine sub species and species, morphs etc.
Help please

Its quite complicated but I believe the responsibility to properly manage our captives is for keepers and herp groups to take a more proactive role and move to ensure we conserve our captive populations. Once hybridisation becomes more common (and acceptable) in captivity, it will be hard to determine if an animal is pure and this could lead to extinction in captivity as species are lost as they merge into one.

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