I agree with you guys, defintely not worth the risk. It just seemed fairly odd that the ones who have kept them together come back saying they've had no issues - whereas others who have not done so tell you to stay clear. I'd prefer to choose the safer option and house them separately. There are just lots of stories and not enough evidence/facts to prove either theory I guess. Well thanks again guys, looks like i'll have to start saving for another enclosure before I can purchase a male.
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notechistiger
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What are the theories? I think it's fairly simple; when keeping two or more animals together, you are risking their health and wellbeing. When keeping them separate, you aren't risking exposing them to those risks. It's easy. Like keeping bearded dragons on sand. Yes, they may live happily on it for years. Or, they may eat some and die. Is it worth it? A good looking enclosure or a dead dragon? See what I mean?
Yea I see what you are saying, but doesn't the same 'risk' apply to breeding then? If you don't put snakes in together for breeding purposes - there is no risk of them harming each other, i.e. no captive breeding = no risk?
The 'theory' I am referring to is the theory that experience breeders have successfully kept snakes together without incident, therefore in their eyes there is no risk and that is the message they pass across.
I am not arguing for keeping them together, if I wanted to keep them together blindly without hearing others opinions - I would not of have started this thread. I for one always prefer to stay on the safe side. I just think that this topic is quite divided - or atleast from my interactions with people.
The 'theory' I am referring to is the theory that experience breeders have successfully kept snakes together without incident, therefore in their eyes there is no risk and that is the message they pass across.
I am not arguing for keeping them together, if I wanted to keep them together blindly without hearing others opinions - I would not of have started this thread. I for one always prefer to stay on the safe side. I just think that this topic is quite divided - or atleast from my interactions with people.
hrmm... Experienced Breeders...
Are we talking the breeders that are in it for the money and feel the odd eaten snake is an acceptable loss given that they could squeeze twice as many animals into the same area by pairing them in a cage all year round ?
Or the ones that keep their snakes separate, then place the chosen pairs for that season together, to monitor the breeding and separate them again when the breeding has run it's course, thus allowing the female the peace and quiet of it's own solitary home, for the duration of her gravid term, to choose her warm and cool spots without argument and to not have to compete for the laying box with another snake that found it snuggly ?
I am breeding snakes. Should I, just because I have bred snakes/am breeding snakes and sold offpring, be called an 'Experienced Breeder' ? I keep snakes together for this purpose, but I certainly don't think that to do so equals no risk.
I monitor the behaviour of the snakes before pairing them and the behaviour as I place them together and I keep a very close eye on them during. Not just for the risk factor, but for the breeding behaviour too. Anyone that cares about their animals health and offspring to come, will be monitoring them closely.
You can decide if I fit your description, but be warned, I don't advocate keeping snakes together all year round.
How many of the people here that have said, 'No, not safe' are to be considered Experienced Breeders ?
Who is to say which is right or wrong ? Either way, to use the term 'Experienced Breeders' really doesn't define much at all and to use that 'theory' certainly won't help you with the answer.
Are we talking the breeders that are in it for the money and feel the odd eaten snake is an acceptable loss given that they could squeeze twice as many animals into the same area by pairing them in a cage all year round ?
Or the ones that keep their snakes separate, then place the chosen pairs for that season together, to monitor the breeding and separate them again when the breeding has run it's course, thus allowing the female the peace and quiet of it's own solitary home, for the duration of her gravid term, to choose her warm and cool spots without argument and to not have to compete for the laying box with another snake that found it snuggly ?
I am breeding snakes. Should I, just because I have bred snakes/am breeding snakes and sold offpring, be called an 'Experienced Breeder' ? I keep snakes together for this purpose, but I certainly don't think that to do so equals no risk.
I monitor the behaviour of the snakes before pairing them and the behaviour as I place them together and I keep a very close eye on them during. Not just for the risk factor, but for the breeding behaviour too. Anyone that cares about their animals health and offspring to come, will be monitoring them closely.
You can decide if I fit your description, but be warned, I don't advocate keeping snakes together all year round.
How many of the people here that have said, 'No, not safe' are to be considered Experienced Breeders ?
Who is to say which is right or wrong ? Either way, to use the term 'Experienced Breeders' really doesn't define much at all and to use that 'theory' certainly won't help you with the answer.
notechistiger
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You'll find that people are divided about a lot of aspects of reptile keeping. Hybrids, DPS and UV, sand and keeping animals together are but a few.
whiteyluvsrum
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a bit too much detail there.
hawkesbury reptiles
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Hi Ossam
There is no 'right' or 'wrong' here...you house your animals how you would like to. You can't be constantly controlling and worrying about your pets.....you will go insane! As for quarantine, yes this applicable if you have a collection, but you only have 2 snakes?? What is one snake going to catch that the other one doesn't have already, they are housed, fed, treated the same anyway.....obviously this doens't apply to new snakes you aquire. Obviously if you do house them together you need to watch their behaviour (as with all animals) and you may need to separate them as they get older.
On saying that, I have housed many snakes of different sizes together ( mainly carpets and womas) for approx 10 yrs....the only problem I have had is feeding when sometimes an over eger snake will mistake its mate for a rat,(they will realise their mistake or have a spray bottle handy) but again, be vigilant with their behaviour towards one another after feeding, I will sometimes keep them separate for a day after feeding just to make sure.
This is my opinion....you need to make up your own mind.
Cute picture by the way...my bredli do the same, soooo cute!!
Good luck
Kelly
There is no 'right' or 'wrong' here...you house your animals how you would like to. You can't be constantly controlling and worrying about your pets.....you will go insane! As for quarantine, yes this applicable if you have a collection, but you only have 2 snakes?? What is one snake going to catch that the other one doesn't have already, they are housed, fed, treated the same anyway.....obviously this doens't apply to new snakes you aquire. Obviously if you do house them together you need to watch their behaviour (as with all animals) and you may need to separate them as they get older.
On saying that, I have housed many snakes of different sizes together ( mainly carpets and womas) for approx 10 yrs....the only problem I have had is feeding when sometimes an over eger snake will mistake its mate for a rat,(they will realise their mistake or have a spray bottle handy) but again, be vigilant with their behaviour towards one another after feeding, I will sometimes keep them separate for a day after feeding just to make sure.
This is my opinion....you need to make up your own mind.
Cute picture by the way...my bredli do the same, soooo cute!!
Good luck
Kelly
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