Some Morelia's

[Jungleland]

I was right, been looking at my photo file and the pics in the first post were taken by myself before Xmas.
Thought they looked familiar, must have emailed them to the owner.

The second lot of pics has the Sydney Telegraph in one photo so I guess they are now down in NSW somewhere.

Hey Nev, where were them animals again before they got sent to NSW?JK

But you can tell us if you feel like it

 

[scorps]

Instead of just knocking the crap out of the ones that crossbreed, why not just accept the fact that they (crossbreeders) are out there, and doing what they want, and then perhaps they would come out of the closet (so to speak), knowing they arent going to get flamed every time the subject comes up. You will soon get to know who they are, and then simple, you dont buy their snakes, as you would know you wont be guarenteed on what you would be getting. You already know the breeders that breed 100% locale, so you keep buying from them, it's pretty simple.
I guess the problem is there are to many here that just have to have their say, and ride thier high horse.

Just accept that thier going to do it???????

Hey there's drug dealers and rapist out their, oh and pedofiles but hey thier still going to do it, lets just make it legal,

gosh arrogance.

 

[TrueBlue]

phatt01,- Well if it has to be accepted as you say, and qldmorelias is as above board as he claims and has received so many pms of interest for his animals rather than being flamed. Why has he not identified himself.?
A number of people in this thread have asked who he is and to identify himself and he just ignores their posts.
Could it be that he wont come out of the closet because hes scared that the authorities may pay him a visit.??
Food for thought ah.!!

 

[Kersten]

Just accept that thier going to do it???????

Hey there's drug dealers and rapist out their, oh and pedofiles but hey thier still going to do it, lets just make it legal,

gosh arrogance.

OT I know but....I happen to know that the "it happened just accept it" line is used by paedophiles on occasion. Scary. Scorps' point is a good point though in relation to this topic. Sitting back and blindly accepting things just because they've happened is circular logic at best.

 

[QldMorelias]

why dont i just post my address, my alarm codes, my guard dog names and commands, how about my credit card details, Im not that concerned about the epa as the animals were discussing are not on my license, nor are thet at my house

 

[TrueBlue]

Nah just a name will do. Or dont you have the balls.

No offence intended.

 

[phatt01]

Just accept that thier going to do it???????

Hey there's drug dealers and rapist out their, oh and pedofiles but hey thier still going to do it, lets just make it legal,

gosh arrogance.

Two totally different things Scorps.
The more they (crossbreeders) get bagged the more they breed them underground, and then GUESS WHAT, you get what what evryone is whingeing about, NOT KNOWING WHAT YOU ARE BUYING!!!!!!!!!!!!
What I am saying is if we knew who the ones are that breed them, which unfortunatly needs to be done by accepting (not agreeing) what they are doing, then you will know who they are, and then the choice is easy on where to buy from.

 

[Pythonking]

Two totally different things Scorps.
The more they (crossbreeders) get bagged the more they breed them underground, and then GUESS WHAT, you get what what evryone is whingeing about, NOT KNOWING WHAT YOU ARE BUYING!!!!!!!!!!!!
What I am saying is if we knew who the ones are that breed them, which unfortunatly needs to be done by accepting (not agreeing) what they are doing, then you will know who they are, and then the choice is easy on where to buy from.

the legal issue plays apart here phatt, I agree on the theory but pratically I don't think it would work, Myself I only buy from reputable breeders or people I presume are

 

[scorps]

Two totally different things Scorps.
The more they (crossbreeders) get bagged the more they breed them underground, and then GUESS WHAT, you get what what evryone is whingeing about, NOT KNOWING WHAT YOU ARE BUYING!!!!!!!!!!!!
What I am saying is if we knew who the ones are that breed them, which unfortunatly needs to be done by accepting (not agreeing) what they are doing, then you will know who they are, and then the choice is easy on where to buy from.

No its not different, I no the severance of the two is different but my point is their both illegal.

 

[QldMorelias]

Rob
as i have said before i am not pretending to be someone im not
I doubt you or most people on this site would know who i am, this has been the case in the past for my own personal prefernce, and for now thats how its going to stay. I think I have shown enough of my balls for now. Why do you want to know who i am so much,

 

[TrueBlue]

No comment qldmorelias.?

If they are not on your licence or at your house there shouldnt be a problem then.!

I noticed that you said that your not " that concerned " about a vist from the EPA, which leads one to belive that you do have some concern.

 

[TrueBlue]

Beat me to it.

I just like to know whos out there tainting the hobby.

You seem to know who i am, so whats the big problem.

 

[scorps]

Rob
as i have said before i am not pretending to be someone im not
I doubt you or most people on this site would know who i am, this has been the case in the past for my own personal prefernce, and for now thats how its going to stay. I think I have shown enough of my balls for now. Why do you want to know who i am so much,

Because theirs also of accusation's going around, if your so proud of your so called "projects" why no claim them and say who you are.

 

[Australis]

phatt01,
Are the hybrid breeders really so fragile, that a mere "internet flaming" forces them to lose all integrity?

 

[solar 17]

who's who

lt beats me why everybody doesn't run their own race.....cheers solar 17 [Baden]

 

[Mudimans]

Rule 3
http://www.aussiepythons.com/forum/...ial-aps-site-rules-90496?highlight=unofficial

 

[phatt01]

phatt01,- Well if it has to be accepted as you say, and qldmorelias is as above board as he claims and has received so many pms of interest for his animals rather than being flamed. Why has he not identified himself.?
A number of people in this thread have asked who he is and to identify himself and he just ignores their posts.
Could it be that he wont come out of the closet because hes scared that the authorities may pay him a visit.??
Food for thought ah.!!

I am generalising the whole hybrid thing, not just qldmorleias, and that is what I am saying, he/she, like so many otheres that crossbreed wont come out untill they stop getting flamed. I cant answer why he/she wont reveal thier name.
Like I say if we knew who they were, then it is our choice on who we buy from, then there would no longer be this BS that keeps coming up when the word Hybrid is mentioned. Let them do what they are doing in peace, and in the open, and then if someone wants to buy a Hybrid they can, and if the authorities want to step in they can to, as it would all be above ground.
Do you really think it is going to be stopped?
I am not for breeding hybrids, and yes I said I would own one of his ones, but that is as far as it would go. There are other solutions, and one is imo to let them come out of the closet, and then they are identified.
The Pure breeders out weigh the cross breeders, and the buyers of only Pure lines, outweigh the people buying Cross Breeds, then I guess the maths is easy. The cross breeders wont last, cause only a minority would buy thier snakes.
Or is it that a lot of us just wont admit that we like Crosses, and would purchase them? Ahh that then is a problem for the pure breeders!!!!!!!!!
Food for thought hey?

 

[mungus]

Rob
as i have said before i am not pretending to be someone im not
I doubt you or most people on this site would know who i am, this has been the case in the past for my own personal prefernce, and for now thats how its going to stay. I think I have shown enough of my balls for now. Why do you want to know who i am so much,

He wants to know who you are so he can bust your balls some more...............:lol::lol:
There is no doubt that the animals in those photo's look awesome.
But, the fact is that they are hybrid's - full stop !!
Now, the day hybrid's become excepted in everyone's collection, is the day that the standard looking reptile will be left behind and won't comand the $ they do today.
But in 30 odd years they might be worth a small fortune, as pure ones will be hard to find.
Some big name breeder's are aware of this imo and could loose big time.
We already have seen the $$ fall on GTP & RSP, what's next ??
Imagine if those hybrid's took off and everyone could legally have a designer snake...........:shock:
Just Imagine..........

 

[megrim]

my point is their both illegal.

I know it's illegal in QLD, but what of other states and territories?, I've been scouring the DSE website and I can't find a damned thing about breeding of any kind. I even hit the DPI ->http://www.dpi.vic.gov.au/dpi/nreni...56DC6000F7125E7F8E4DBA5A6FDD04A256DEA0027A820

and there's not even anything in the 'Code of Practice'. I imagine there is at least some sort of legislature for breeding reptiles in VIC, I just can't for the life of me find it :cry:

If someone could point me in the right direction I would be much obliged.

 

[QldMorelias]

no loss of integrity, just like my privacy,

anyway this isnt what this thread is about, all we wanted to achieve was to let people know there are other hybrid and designer snake breeders out there, and people dont need to be afraid to share pics of their projects and even talk about hybrids.

The perception of hybrids and designer snakes is becoming far more widely accepted, thats what we wanted and thats what we are achieving.

Thanks again to everyone who pm'd and posted, either in favour or against